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Paul Pogba
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burning blue soul
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If I had the time or inclination I would check the post history of all on here supporting this move. 90% will have slagged Pogba off/ridiculed him for his lack of effort in games.
The number of posters on here who were agog at his performance to stop City winning the league, pretty much on his own, shows how little we think of his talent.
That kind of performance is what City will be looking for in EVERY GAME.
You really think he can achieve that constant level of performance, just cos he's now wanting to come to City?
An unreliable player for 100m or free, is still an unreliable player.
The number of posters on here who were agog at his performance to stop City winning the league, pretty much on his own, shows how little we think of his talent.
That kind of performance is what City will be looking for in EVERY GAME.
You really think he can achieve that constant level of performance, just cos he's now wanting to come to City?
An unreliable player for 100m or free, is still an unreliable player.
Ours were 62% in the last accounts. If players come in then others will leave, so I am sure we'd be fine.Get where you’re coming from but I’d guess that would add about £60m+/annum to our wage bill
Aren’t there plans afoot to make it so as you can only spend 70% of turnover on wages?
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Certainly sounds like more than just a rumour and there is a distinct possibility that this could happen. I probably wouldn't entertain him but it certainly is intriguing.I think you know he’s coming mate and after thinking about it this morning I’ll back pep to get his France performances to city! On a free at decent wages he deserves the chance to prove himself if he wants it.
I think it's good to register our feelings now, but if he does sign then he will need total support from the fans.
Trouble is with too many egos in the side is that we could easily end up just like Utd (or to another extent Everton) when things goes tits up and it becomes a completly toxic environment and near enough unmanagable. We had a taster a few seasons back under Roberto ManciniThis is not entirely about Pogba, it’s something I’ve been thinking for a while…Does anyone else think that this team actually lacks a bit of ego?
We’re the greatest side in English football history and yet often appear almost embarrassed by it, overly reverential or even meek in games against big sides.
If you look at Pep’s Barcelona you had quiet hard workers like Xavi, Pedro and Iniesta but also Pique, Alves and Eto’o who would say “Yeah, we’re the best side in the planet and we’re going to show you why”. Brazil 1970, Ajax in the 70s, Milan in the 80s … they all had players who weren’t shy about being the best side in the world.
Going back to the Real first leg, after 20 minutes there seemed to be an air of “I can’t believe this is happening” among the players, and we were way too respectful of PSG and Atletico. We were overawed by the CL final last year.
Pep is brilliant but he can squash players’ personalities a bit and we have a few who seem to constantly doubt themselves despite their quality and successes. If I have one criticism of him compared to Klopp it’s that he doesn’t seem to instil the same unshakeable confidence in his players which clearly makes them play better.
You have to have the performances and quality to back it up, but a bit of swagger would be a good addition to this squad IMO and maybe the last bit missing to make them go down as one of the greatest sides of all time.
burning blue soul
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I trust in the club management, however, that drop off, as a trend, means even the club don't know for sure if he can do it at our level anymore.He would have been about 25 in season 4 and 41 in season 5. A big drop off - although still not far off many of our players, even in a much less successful team. As I said, that could be due to injuries disrupting his season, him not fitting into whatever 'system' Ole thought he was playing, or a genuine drop off.
Even at those levels, he's slightly above Declan Rice for example. If you think about how many spots City and Liverpool take up, and then the best players at the other big teams, he's still in the top few % of PL players.
If the club are convinced his injuries haven't diminished him physically, then I think it would be interesting to see just what Pep can do with him.
It's a risk, and pretty much all the risk is being taken by City.
manimanc
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What??Trouble is with too many egos in the side is that we could easily end up just like Utd (or to another extent Everton) when things goes tits up and it becomes a completly toxic environment
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Sorry but I still don't think he is good enough to be in this team imo.
Doesn't work hard enough and his age is a bit of a concern.
The only thing I think it might work is if Pep thinks he can make it work.
I would prefer De Jong over him :)
Doesn't work hard enough and his age is a bit of a concern.
The only thing I think it might work is if Pep thinks he can make it work.
I would prefer De Jong over him :)
SalfordGrimble
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But how many players are completely different at a different club, It happens all the time. His talent is undoubtably there, and if Pep can get him in a system where we get the best out of him, consistency might come.If I had the time or inclination I would check the post history of all on here supporting this move. 90% will have slagged Pogba off/ridiculed him for his lack of effort in games.
The number of posters on here who were agog at his performance to stop City winning the league, pretty much on his own, shows how little we think of his talent.
That kind of performance is what City will be looking for in EVERY GAME.
You really think he can achieve that constant level of performance, just cos he's now wanting to come to City?
An unreliable player for 100m or free, is still an unreliable player.
His assists are up there with the best
I presume all this is coming from Pogba camp they can easily just let the media know we interested and we know the media would get nothing from our camp.
We will have a list of midfielders the club are interested in and Pogba would be on it as well as 3/4 others.
I presume all this is coming from Pogba camp they can easily just let the media know we interested and we know the media would get nothing from our camp.
We will have a list of midfielders the club are interested in and Pogba would be on it as well as 3/4 others.
Trouble is with too many egos in the side is that we could easily end up just like Utd (or to another extent Everton) when things goes tits up and it becomes a completly toxic environment and near enough unmanagable. We had a taster a few seasons back under Roberto Mancini
But we don’t have any at the moment…
Besides I find it very hard to believe that the toxic cultures at Everton and United are not due to their completely awful management and simply bad squads.
tolmie's hairdoo
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His assists are up there with the best
I presume all this is coming from Pogba camp they can easily just let the media know we interested and we know the media would get nothing from our camp.
We will have a list of midfielders the club are interested in and Pogba would be on it as well as 3/4 others.
It's come from City.
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Too many plus points for City for them to pass up really.I know he's been offered, I know it was at his behest, I know we are interested. I know City aren't yet sure he could yet end up at PSG.
IMO It was steered yesterday to gauge the public reaction and give Pogba and City a more informed take on things.
Can't fault Pogba, he's not making it about money, just wants to be winning things in a successful team.
I think we would be crazy not to give it a go, we have far bigger stars than United in our drawing room.
He's going on a free transfer when we will possibly need two new midfielders. Frees up money to spend a fair wedge on the other midfielder.
He is still marketable and a star name. Shirt seller etc. And the narrative of one of Uniteds best players joining City is always welcome.
Raiola agency client. Can build good relations with them employing Haaland and Pogba in one window.
Most importantly he's definitely talented enough to play for City. Pep has commented in the past about how good Pogba is and can play in 10 positions etc. So if we sign him, Pep will have a plan for how best to use him.
It's just a no brainer imo.
He lives at home with his mum, wife and kids.
He doesn't drink, devout Muslim, you will rarely see him in the headlines outside of his own Insta stuff.
Aside from his questionable fashion sense and hairstyles, he doesn't fuck about.
He wants to win and is prepared to accept less money to come here.
That tells me it is about football.
He knows he has wasted 5/6 years at the rags he also knows at city under pep he has a great chance of winning the big trophies.
burning blue soul
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It doesn't happen all the time. You only remember the times it does happen. 90% of the time players continue at their current levels, or drop off.But how many players are completely different at a different club, It happens all the time. His talent is undoubtably there, and if Pep can get him in a system where we get the best out of him, consistency might come.
I'm not saying it will be a disaster, I'm saying that the risk/reward ratio is 80/20 for me on this.
City try to mitigate risks, this seems the opposite.
The only one I'd say is the wages compared to others in the team. I know he's won the World Cup but so had Mendy...I'll be honest I don't see any downsides to this.
Do his performances justify going alongside Kev when Bernie, Mahrez, Dias, Walker, Eddie etc aren't?
The piss boiling outweighs it though.
tolmie's hairdoo
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Too many plus points for City for them to pass up really.
He's going on a free transfer when we will possibly need two new midfielders. Frees up money to spend a fair wedge on the other midfielder.
He is still marketable and a star name. Shirt seller etc. And the narrative of one of Uniteds best players joining City is always welcome.
Raiola agency client. Can build good relations with them employing Haaland and Pogba in one window.
Most importantly he's definitely talented enough to play for City. Pep has commented in the past about how good Pogba is and can play in 10 positions etc. So if we sign him, Pep will have a plan for how best to use him.
It's just a no brainer imo.
This remains a good point. If things didn't work out we would easily get his wages back in a couple years.
The Pandorica Opened
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People are bigging up his performances for France, but I'm sure I remember that the goal that cost them at the Euros involved Pogba giving away possession and then tracking back with all the intensity of a sleep-deprived tortoise. I know he scored a thundercunt as well, but if that's him at his best then I simply don't think he's a City player. He screams PSG, all talent with no grit, all highlights with no consistency.
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