PC brigade again

[Matty]

Beyonce being the spokeswoman for all black people now?

No, Beyonce being the spokesperson for...err....Beyonce. SHE is the one who has, apparently, had her skin lightened after all. She isn't making decisions for the entire black population of the planet.

Granted she doesnt need the money but Beyonce is a woman of dubious morals anyway.

Really? Based on what exactly? Morals are just one person's view of the world. What you see as morally dubious many may have no problem with whatsoever. I can't say I've heard too much about Beyonce being on dodgy moral ground (apart from, possibly, the wearing of fur which I believe she, along with the majority of rap/R&B stars seem to do on a regular basis).

 

[uwerosler28]

Why her skin was lightened is irrelevant, whether or not they had her permission to do so is the only issue. If she allowed her skin to be lightened, for whatever reason, then that's her personal choice. She can do what she likes with her own image.

So if you offer a black person enough money to degrade themselves then it's fine so long as the black person in question is willing to do so?

Good thinking that Matty!

What's your point, TMQ? I'm unsure of the angle.

I'm saying that in my opinion just because Beyonce may be willing to white up in exchange for lots of cash doesnt mean that it is right.

Can't see Chuck D being willing to whiten his skin a touch in an attempt to sell a few more PE albums can you?

If people cant deal with Beyonces skin tone, or if they think a lighter skin tone may appeal to more people then that's their own call but in my own view it's a little crass.

The point is that people like you trying to turn this into a race issue but would you be so offended if they darkened a white person's skin, infact you would probably this this is racist against blacks aswell trying to make out we were taking the piss out of them or something

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

If she chooses to be an Oreo cookie sell-out then fine.
If she can live with being a hypocrite for cash she's not exactly lacking,then fine.
At least we know where the mercenary woman stands now.
Exactly where whitey tells her.

High five!

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Beyonce being the spokeswoman for all black people now?

No, Beyonce being the spokesperson for...err....Beyonce. SHE is the one who has, apparently, had her skin lightened after all. She isn't making decisions for the entire black population of the planet.

Granted she doesnt need the money but Beyonce is a woman of dubious morals anyway.

Really? Based on what exactly? Morals are just one person's view of the world. What you see as morally dubious many may have no problem with whatsoever. I can't say I've heard too much about Beyonce being on dodgy moral ground (apart from, possibly, the wearing of fur which I believe she, along with the majority of rap/R&B stars seem to do on a regular basis).

Why not get a white girl then or a lighter toned black girl? They want the 'urban' credibility of Beyonce but without the 'baggage' of her black skin and it's incredibly shallow and obvious.

 

[mat]

I think TMQ is asking why skin colour is such an issue nowdays?

I've always thought that Beyonce was getting whiter in her videos, promo photos etc.

Surely some thick record exec doesn't think that they'll lose sales because of her colour?

Her music speaks for itself, her fans will buy her albums even if she was green.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

I think TMQ is asking why skin colour is such an issue nowdays?

I've always thought that Beyonce was getting whiter in her videos, promo photos etc.

Surely some thick record exec doesn't think that they'll lose sales because of her colour?

Her music speaks for itself, her fans will buy her albums even if she was green.

I also take offence at the fact people think just cos she's being paid for it it makes it ok. Money is not the be all and end all for fucks sake!

 

[mat]

Money over principles is wrong in my book.

Surely if it's to dismiss your race there must be some self loathing issues too?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Money over principles is wrong in my book.

Surely if it's to dismiss your race there must be some self loathing issues too?

To be honest this Beyonce example is a small drop in the ocean but the ripples will be felt worldwide, most likely by dark skinned black women who historically have received a much rougher ride than their lighter skinned conterparts.

Money is worthless at the end of the day.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Why her skin was lightened is irrelevant, whether or not they had her permission to do so is the only issue. If she allowed her skin to be lightened, for whatever reason, then that's her personal choice. She can do what she likes with her own image.

So if you offer a black person enough money to degrade themselves then it's fine so long as the black person in question is willing to do so?

Good thinking that Matty!

What's your point, TMQ? I'm unsure of the angle.

I'm saying that in my opinion just because Beyonce may be willing to white up in exchange for lots of cash doesnt mean that it is right.

Can't see Chuck D being willing to whiten his skin a touch in an attempt to sell a few more PE albums can you?

If people cant deal with Beyonces skin tone, or if they think a lighter skin tone may appeal to more people then that's their own call but in my own view it's a little crass.

The point is that people like you trying to turn this into a race issue but would you be so offended if they darkened a white person's skin, infact you would probably this this is racist against blacks aswell trying to make out we were taking the piss out of them or something

Depends how you mean mate. If you mean get a white person with a tan then fine by me. Personally i wouldnt change my skin colour for anyone elses pleasure no matter how much cash was involved.

Also it's totally different to compare white to black in this instance, our skin colour has never really hindered us at all has it?

 

[Bigga]

Why her skin was lightened is irrelevant, whether or not they had her permission to do so is the only issue. If she allowed her skin to be lightened, for whatever reason, then that's her personal choice. She can do what she likes with her own image.

So if you offer a black person enough money to degrade themselves then it's fine so long as the black person in question is willing to do so?

Good thinking that Matty!

What's your point, TMQ? I'm unsure of the angle.

I'm saying that in my opinion just because Beyonce may be willing to white up in exchange for lots of cash doesnt mean that it is right.

Can't see Chuck D being willing to whiten his skin a touch in an attempt to sell a few more PE albums can you?

If people cant deal with Beyonces skin tone, or if they think a lighter skin tone may appeal to more people then that's their own call but in my own view it's a little crass.

Clearly, Beyonce signed a deal allowing such an effect to come out. She has lawyers and image consultants to guide her decisions, but ultimately the choice is her own.

At the same time, thses advisors must have, at some point, re-informed her what her 'standing' is as a Black and powerful woman' in the eyes of her immediate community. Maybe, she feels she's trancended that point.

She's not stupid and would have seen the image before it went on sale and would've HAD to approve it in order for it to get on that shelf.

Maybe the 'lightening' effect is simply down to powerful lighting, in which case she would see no wrong in the image.