Pellegrini has made City a 'happy' club again, claims Begiri

Doesn't matter to me. Bob's entitled to his opinion. Ditto Txiki. The reality is I don't give a shit how happy everyone is if we end up with just one title from 3 years when we are the preeminent team/squad in the league. They may be happy but a lot of fan's will look at this as failure.

If Liverpool win the title it will mean an inferior team has overtaken us. The only possible conclusion is that Rodgers will have got more out of his players than Pellegrini has ours.

I thought yesterday we weren't positive enough. If we go to Anfield and play like that we will lose. He has the players what he needs now is some of Mancini's cojones. And to out-think Rodgers.
 
BillyShears said:
karen7 said:
People wonder why bob fights his corner,why should he stay silent if the club puts out things like this

Here's what I don't understand about people like you. The public utterances, even from before Mancini's sacking, are incomparable. Mancini has at various times both before and after his sacking openly ridiculed people within the City organisation. Now I realise that two wrongs don't make a right etc. However if yer man is calling Khaldoon "judas" and saying that an experienced football executive who oversaw the rebuilding of the modern Barca knows "nothing about football" that's a long long long way from Txiki saying "the club is happy again" or Chappy saying a similar thing. So far as I can see and am aware, nobody from the club has spoken openly and publicly about how destructive Mancini was, or about his decision to resign the week after the title win, or his subsequent return based on promises he had no intention of keeping. In actual fact the club have done what they always do and keep their own council. This documentary, Chappy's or Txiki's comments - they're nothing. In the greater scheme of things, less than nothing. This cannot be compared with some of the things which Mancini has said and continues to say.

The point is simple.

Whatever Mancini says post dismissal are the personal opinions of Mancini and reflect for better or worse on him alone. What Txiki or Chappers say in a documentary are not just the opinions of that individual but the opinions of the club they represent and will reflect for better or worse on the club. On this basis alone they, on behalf of the club they represent, should act as the 'better man' as it were and keep their personal animosity to themselves. By speaking out in this manner we get a) negative articles and b) long, fucking tedious threads in which we go round and round in ever decreasing circles.

As for whatever comments Mancini made prior to his dismissal they are grounds for action by the club if they see...oh wait they fired him.
 
BobKowalski said:
BillyShears said:
karen7 said:
People wonder why bob fights his corner,why should he stay silent if the club puts out things like this

Here's what I don't understand about people like you. The public utterances, even from before Mancini's sacking, are incomparable. Mancini has at various times both before and after his sacking openly ridiculed people within the City organisation. Now I realise that two wrongs don't make a right etc. However if yer man is calling Khaldoon "judas" and saying that an experienced football executive who oversaw the rebuilding of the modern Barca knows "nothing about football" that's a long long long way from Txiki saying "the club is happy again" or Chappy saying a similar thing. So far as I can see and am aware, nobody from the club has spoken openly and publicly about how destructive Mancini was, or about his decision to resign the week after the title win, or his subsequent return based on promises he had no intention of keeping. In actual fact the club have done what they always do and keep their own council. This documentary, Chappy's or Txiki's comments - they're nothing. In the greater scheme of things, less than nothing. This cannot be compared with some of the things which Mancini has said and continues to say.

The point is simple.

Whatever Mancini says post dismissal are the personal opinions of Mancini and reflect for better or worse on him alone. What Txiki or Chappers say in a documentary are not just the opinions of that individual but the opinions of the club they represent and will reflect for better or worse on the club. On this basis alone they, on behalf of the club they represent, should act as the 'better man' as it were and keep their personal animosity to themselves. By speaking out in this manner we get a) negative articles and b) long, fucking tedious threads in which we go round and round in ever decreasing circles.

As for whatever comments Mancini made prior to his dismissal they are grounds for action by the club if they see...oh wait they fired him.

Yes and we all know why it reached that point !!!
 
Skashion said:
Anyway, the players are happy again. Let's all watch the documentary on ITV4 on Tuesday at 10PM. End of thread.

You've become a bit more cynical/meta on threads recently mate, which is a shame as you seem to have great opinions on football when you aren't too apathetic to share them.

Everything ok?
 
If Rodgers wins the title over Pellegrini, I just don't know what I'll think.<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:04 pm --<br /><br />If Rodgers wins the title over Pellegrini, I just don't know what I'll think.
 
oakiecokie said:
BobKowalski said:
BillyShears said:
Here's what I don't understand about people like you. The public utterances, even from before Mancini's sacking, are incomparable. Mancini has at various times both before and after his sacking openly ridiculed people within the City organisation. Now I realise that two wrongs don't make a right etc. However if yer man is calling Khaldoon "judas" and saying that an experienced football executive who oversaw the rebuilding of the modern Barca knows "nothing about football" that's a long long long way from Txiki saying "the club is happy again" or Chappy saying a similar thing. So far as I can see and am aware, nobody from the club has spoken openly and publicly about how destructive Mancini was, or about his decision to resign the week after the title win, or his subsequent return based on promises he had no intention of keeping. In actual fact the club have done what they always do and keep their own council. This documentary, Chappy's or Txiki's comments - they're nothing. In the greater scheme of things, less than nothing. This cannot be compared with some of the things which Mancini has said and continues to say.

The point is simple.

Whatever Mancini says post dismissal are the personal opinions of Mancini and reflect for better or worse on him alone. What Txiki or Chappers say in a documentary are not just the opinions of that individual but the opinions of the club they represent and will reflect for better or worse on the club. On this basis alone they, on behalf of the club they represent, should act as the 'better man' as it were and keep their personal animosity to themselves. By speaking out in this manner we get a) negative articles and b) long, fucking tedious threads in which we go round and round in ever decreasing circles.

As for whatever comments Mancini made prior to his dismissal they are grounds for action by the club if they see...oh wait they fired him.

Yes and we all know why it reached that point !!!

Yes we do. The Mancini 'cycle' (to borrow Ferran's phrase) had come to an end and the Ferran/Txiki cycle has begun. The circle of life and all that.<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:14 pm --<br /><br />
Skashion said:
Anyway, the players are happy again. Let's all watch the documentary on ITV4 on Tuesday at 10PM. End of thread.

Well some are I guess. Doubt if Gaz Baz was laughing his socks off when they shipped him out the door to Everton :)

Although if Everton grab 4th spot at Arsenal's expense he will be pretty chuffed...
 
Damocles said:
You've become a bit more cynical/meta on threads recently mate,

which is a shame as you seem to have great opinions on football

too apathetic to share them.

Everything ok?
Very true.

Not at all true.

Bingo.

I'm apathetic as you say. The level of division on this forum continues to subsume everything else. I don't feel I add anything though so I'm just not that bothered.
 
BobKowalski said:
BillyShears said:
karen7 said:
People wonder why bob fights his corner,why should he stay silent if the club puts out things like this

Here's what I don't understand about people like you. The public utterances, even from before Mancini's sacking, are incomparable. Mancini has at various times both before and after his sacking openly ridiculed people within the City organisation. Now I realise that two wrongs don't make a right etc. However if yer man is calling Khaldoon "judas" and saying that an experienced football executive who oversaw the rebuilding of the modern Barca knows "nothing about football" that's a long long long way from Txiki saying "the club is happy again" or Chappy saying a similar thing. So far as I can see and am aware, nobody from the club has spoken openly and publicly about how destructive Mancini was, or about his decision to resign the week after the title win, or his subsequent return based on promises he had no intention of keeping. In actual fact the club have done what they always do and keep their own council. This documentary, Chappy's or Txiki's comments - they're nothing. In the greater scheme of things, less than nothing. This cannot be compared with some of the things which Mancini has said and continues to say.

The point is simple.

Whatever Mancini says post dismissal are the personal opinions of Mancini and reflect for better or worse on him alone. What Txiki or Chappers say in a documentary are not just the opinions of that individual but the opinions of the club they represent and will reflect for better or worse on the club. On this basis alone they, on behalf of the club they represent, should act as the 'better man' as it were and keep their personal animosity to themselves. By speaking out in this manner we get a) negative articles and b) long, fucking tedious threads in which we go round and round in ever decreasing circles.

As for whatever comments Mancini made prior to his dismissal they are grounds for action by the club if they see...oh wait they fired him.

My point remains Chappy and Txiki's comments are literally nothing. There's no headline there. Mancini was disliked and club is a happier place. This is made reference to on an almost weekly basis somewhere on a forum or in the media. Nevermind being old news, it's not even news.

This thread only has life because the immediate response of those who feel personally affronted by any criticism of Mancini is to attack the person doing the criticising, so someone like Chappy becomes the sock washing bitter ****.
 

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