Pellegrini has made City a 'happy' club again, claims Begiri

[BlueAnorak]

Doesn't matter to me. Bob's entitled to his opinion. Ditto Txiki. The reality is I don't give a shit how happy everyone is if we end up with just one title from 3 years when we are the preeminent team/squad in the league. They may be happy but a lot of fan's will look at this as failure.

If Liverpool win the title it will mean an inferior team has overtaken us. The only possible conclusion is that Rodgers will have got more out of his players than Pellegrini has ours.

I thought yesterday we weren't positive enough. If we go to Anfield and play like that we will lose. He has the players what he needs now is some of Mancini's cojones. And to out-think Rodgers.

If Liverpool win the title then I will agree with you.
Lets see what happens first.

 

[CITYBOY1000]

People wonder why bob fights his corner,why should he stay silent if the club puts out things like this

Here's what I don't understand about people like you. The public utterances, even from before Mancini's sacking, are incomparable. Mancini has at various times both before and after his sacking openly ridiculed people within the City organisation. Now I realise that two wrongs don't make a right etc. However if yer man is calling Khaldoon "judas" and saying that an experienced football executive who oversaw the rebuilding of the modern Barca knows "nothing about football" that's a long long long way from Txiki saying "the club is happy again" or Chappy saying a similar thing. So far as I can see and am aware, nobody from the club has spoken openly and publicly about how destructive Mancini was, or about his decision to resign the week after the title win, or his subsequent return based on promises he had no intention of keeping. In actual fact the club have done what they always do and keep their own council. This documentary, Chappy's or Txiki's comments - they're nothing. In the greater scheme of things, less than nothing. This cannot be compared with some of the things which Mancini has said and continues to say.

People like you ? What's all this "people like you" business ?

Do you mean somebody who presents a different view point to your own ?

 

[kaz7]

Press pass just said txiki has a pop at mancini in this programme.Thats why he should not have said it

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Here's what I don't understand about people like you. The public utterances, even from before Mancini's sacking, are incomparable. Mancini has at various times both before and after his sacking openly ridiculed people within the City organisation. Now I realise that two wrongs don't make a right etc. However if yer man is calling Khaldoon "judas" and saying that an experienced football executive who oversaw the rebuilding of the modern Barca knows "nothing about football" that's a long long long way from Txiki saying "the club is happy again" or Chappy saying a similar thing. So far as I can see and am aware, nobody from the club has spoken openly and publicly about how destructive Mancini was, or about his decision to resign the week after the title win, or his subsequent return based on promises he had no intention of keeping. In actual fact the club have done what they always do and keep their own council. This documentary, Chappy's or Txiki's comments - they're nothing. In the greater scheme of things, less than nothing. This cannot be compared with some of the things which Mancini has said and continues to say.

The point is simple.

Whatever Mancini says post dismissal are the personal opinions of Mancini and reflect for better or worse on him alone. What Txiki or Chappers say in a documentary are not just the opinions of that individual but the opinions of the club they represent and will reflect for better or worse on the club. On this basis alone they, on behalf of the club they represent, should act as the 'better man' as it were and keep their personal animosity to themselves. By speaking out in this manner we get a) negative articles and b) long, fucking tedious threads in which we go round and round in ever decreasing circles.

As for whatever comments Mancini made prior to his dismissal they are grounds for action by the club if they see...oh wait they fired him.

My point remains Chappy and Txiki's comments are literally nothing. There's no headline there. Mancini was disliked and club is a happier place. This is made reference to on an almost weekly basis somewhere on a forum or in the media. Nevermind being old news, it's not even news.

This thread only has life because the immediate response of those who feel personally affronted by any criticism of Mancini is to attack the person doing the criticising, so someone like Chappy becomes the sock washing bitter ****.

I thought it was Chappy's deputy - who became Sunderland's sock washer - that started all this many months ago. Possible conspiracy?

Anyway, let's see the TV programme to get better context. If Txiki and Ferran are claiming a great coup in appointing MP (and I like the engineer), I would like them to clarify how close they were to appointing Dave Moyes.

If it turns out the Davey dumped us, it could be a great boost to the #SOD campaign at a time when the Rags look to be heading for a thrashing vs Bayern.

 

[Damocles]

Whilst me and Billy might disagree on issues here and there, I can't help but feel impressed by his patience

 

[kaz7]

Whilst me and Billy might disagree on issues here and there, I can't help but feel impressed by his patience

He doesn't need patience just accept people have a different view without referring to them as "people like you"

 

[Anonymous]

Whilst me and Billy might disagree on issues here and there, I can't help but feel impressed by his patience

He doesn't need patience just accept people have a different view without referring to them as "people like you"

Thought it was pretty obvious that by people like you I simply meant those people who think that the Txiki Chappy's shouldn't have said anything about the club being happier than it was last season because this somehow reflects badly on us.

 

[kaz7]

Whilst me and Billy might disagree on issues here and there, I can't help but feel impressed by his patience

He doesn't need patience just accept people have a different view without referring to them as "people like you"

Thought it was pretty obvious that by people like you I simply meant those people who think that the Txiki Chappy's shouldn't have said anything about the club being happier than it was last season because this somehow reflects badly on us.

It carries on the bad feeling is my point more than anything else.press pass just mentioned it,chosing his words better would have not opened the door again

 

[Anonymous]

He doesn't need patience just accept people have a different view without referring to them as "people like you"

Thought it was pretty obvious that by people like you I simply meant those people who think that the Txiki Chappy's shouldn't have said anything about the club being happier than it was last season because this somehow reflects badly on us.

It carries on the bad feeling is my point more than anything else.press pass just mentioned it,chosing his words better would have not opened the door again

What bad feeling? The whole point is that the club is a happier place.

I've seen the program and it's really nothing. Yes it's obvious that they are both talking about Mancini, but what are they supposed say? The club is a happier place and that has been reflected in the overall performances. They couldn't have chosen their words any better because it was all about how happy the club is now. Fine Chappy says "it's nice that he says good morning" but again, big deal. He's hardly saying something new or important. Mancini was rude. Pellegrini isn't.

 

[Blue Haze]

So predictable. A bunch of fans who've never worked a day in the club know better than Chappy. I knew halfway through reading the article that he'd be thrown under the Mancini bus.