Pellegrini is the new manager (Malaga Newspaper reports) 2.

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Pam said:
karen7 said:
just seen on ssn the performances in the champions league overall bobby has won 43% of matches and manu 39% so everyone saying manu is much better than bobby is not true.dont hit me with limited resources etc etc,just given you the facts

Don't get me started, Karen.

time of the month.
 
Just got the tatto.

Pellegrini woooaho
Pellegrini woooaho
He comes from Chile
To regain the title!!!!!

Come on City & Pellers!
 
MSP said:
Pam said:
Marvin said:
They've both played umpteen Champions League games, certainly enough for the stats to be significant.

Even so, its a bit of a limited statistic. You have to look at the squads they were managing at any given time and whether their clubs were experienced in the competition and comfortable with it. You have to say, Pelligrini did very well with Malaga in the CL but two swallows does not a summer make.

he did even better with Villarreal and was inch away from reaching the final.

Didn't know that. I still think it was grossly unfair on Bobby, though. Not much is made of the fact that our last group included clubs that went on to be finalists or semi finalists and during the previous season, we had the hardest group of all the English teams and we amassed ten points out of that one. Only two other clubs ever took ten points in the group stages without qualifying. Why he didn't get another chance is beyond me.
 
Pam said:
Daz_Blue said:
Manchester City are ready to adopt a continental style management structure with the expected appointment of Manuel Pellegrini, who announced today that he would be leaving Malaga.
Club insiders say the idea is to appoint a head coach rather than a manager, leaving the day-to-day handling of such things as transfers and HR with senior executives, in this case almost certainly director of Football Tixi Bergstein.

The City board became exasperated with former manager Roberto Mancini’s public lobbying for certain players who Bergstein and, before him, Brian Marwood, regarded as unsuited to “the project”.

The main strategy of the club, constrained as it is by the new Financial Fair Play rules, is to embark on one or two flagship signings each year, sell on those who have not performed, or are coming to the end of their careers, and most importantly ensure a steady supply of young players from an Academy that will have more than £100 million lavished upon it.

Mancini’s alleged unwillingness to see the Academy as the backbone of the entire Manchester City project, is believed to be one of the key reasons he lost his job.

The new man is in no doubt that his role begins and ends with the coaching of the first team. Our source would not name the new head coach, but did confirm that the job was no longer available and that the new man “is well aware of the parameters of the role”.

This is essentially a power grab. Get rid of Bobby, who wanted to micro manage and replace him with someone (MP) accustomed to a more limited role in team affairs. The Chavs have tried this approach a couple of times. It will be interesting to see how it all goes.
This is how power ends up with the players.
 
Pam said:
karen7 said:
just seen on ssn the performances in the champions league overall bobby has won 43% of matches and manu 39% so everyone saying manu is much better than bobby is not true.dont hit me with limited resources etc etc,just given you the facts

Don't get me started, Karen.

There are 3 possible results in a game of football: win lose or draw.

Pellegrini has lost 8 games in the Champions League. 6 of those 8 games were lost at Malaga & Villareal. Six losses in THIRTY SIX games for two teams with resources a fraction of City or Inter.

Mancini lost 4 games out of 11 for City, after spending 100s of millions on players.

There is so far in their careers, no comparison in the Champions League between Mancini & Pelle. Pellegrini has been on another level entirely.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Pam said:
karen7 said:
just seen on ssn the performances in the champions league overall bobby has won 43% of matches and manu 39% so everyone saying manu is much better than bobby is not true.dont hit me with limited resources etc etc,just given you the facts

Don't get me started, Karen.

time of the month.

You're pathetic, mate.
 
Bert Trautmann's Parachute said:
Pam said:
Daz_Blue said:
Manchester City are ready to adopt a continental style management structure with the expected appointment of Manuel Pellegrini, who announced today that he would be leaving Malaga.
Club insiders say the idea is to appoint a head coach rather than a manager, leaving the day-to-day handling of such things as transfers and HR with senior executives, in this case almost certainly director of Football Tixi Bergstein.

The City board became exasperated with former manager Roberto Mancini’s public lobbying for certain players who Bergstein and, before him, Brian Marwood, regarded as unsuited to “the project”.

The main strategy of the club, constrained as it is by the new Financial Fair Play rules, is to embark on one or two flagship signings each year, sell on those who have not performed, or are coming to the end of their careers, and most importantly ensure a steady supply of young players from an Academy that will have more than £100 million lavished upon it.

Mancini’s alleged unwillingness to see the Academy as the backbone of the entire Manchester City project, is believed to be one of the key reasons he lost his job.

The new man is in no doubt that his role begins and ends with the coaching of the first team. Our source would not name the new head coach, but did confirm that the job was no longer available and that the new man “is well aware of the parameters of the role”.

This is essentially a power grab. Get rid of Bobby, who wanted to micro manage and replace him with someone (MP) accustomed to a more limited role in team affairs. The Chavs have tried this approach a couple of times. It will be interesting to see how it all goes.
This is how power ends up with the players.

Ohh yes, just like it did in Barca....hmmmmm.

Bringing in a Power Manger allows your players to build power because these managers hardly ever "Man Manage" players with big egos.... such as Mancini, Mourinho, Capello... you have to have man managers and tactician's as coaches in a DoF business model where there are 4-6 star players in 1 team.

Coaches like Pellegrini get the best out of a player and is respected worldwide by journos, critics and football players... players want to play under his leadership because he is that damn good, he has had top teams like Chelsea, Napoli, Barca and PSG try to court him.

Our emphasis at City is young Academy players coming through the ranks and only the elite joining Man City 1st team.... That type of team does not develop players with power... rather it makes City one of the most attractive teams to come and play for in the world.
 
Daz_Blue said:
Manchester City are ready to adopt a continental style management structure with the expected appointment of Manuel Pellegrini, who announced today that he would be leaving Malaga.
Club insiders say the idea is to appoint a head coach rather than a manager, leaving the day-to-day handling of such things as transfers and HR with senior executives, in this case almost certainly director of Football Tixi Bergstein.

The City board became exasperated with former manager Roberto Mancini’s public lobbying for certain players who Bergstein and, before him, Brian Marwood, regarded as unsuited to “the project”.

The main strategy of the club, constrained as it is by the new Financial Fair Play rules, is to embark on one or two flagship signings each year, sell on those who have not performed, or are coming to the end of their careers, and most importantly ensure a steady supply of young players from an Academy that will have more than £100 million lavished upon it.

Mancini’s alleged unwillingness to see the Academy as the backbone of the entire Manchester City project, is believed to be one of the key reasons he lost his job.

The new man is in no doubt that his role begins and ends with the coaching of the first team. Our source would not name the new head coach, but did confirm that the job was no longer available and that the new man “is well aware of the parameters of the role”.

so if the team performs poorly whos to blame, the coach for not man managing the players of the director of football for buying the wrong players?
 
Pam said:
MSP said:
Pam said:
Even so, its a bit of a limited statistic. You have to look at the squads they were managing at any given time and whether their clubs were experienced in the competition and comfortable with it. You have to say, Pelligrini did very well with Malaga in the CL but two swallows does not a summer make.

he did even better with Villarreal and was inch away from reaching the final.

Didn't know that. I still think it was grossly unfair on Bobby, though. Not much is made of the fact that our last group included clubs that went on to be finalists or semi finalists and during the previous season, we had the hardest group of all the English teams and we amassed ten points out of that one. Only two other clubs ever took ten points in the group stages without qualifying. Why he didn't get another chance is beyond me.

0:1 aggregate loss against Arsenal with Henry and with Lehmann saving 88th minute Riquelme's penalty in 2nd leg. Clichy was one who caused the penalty :) All that with team based in 45 000 city.

And time to give it a rest Pam, I know Mancini took your h(e)art :) but he is gone.
 
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