Pellers press conference

Caveman said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
squirtyflower said:
How come there wasn't the same pre-occupation with the number of trophies won by Moyes in his press conference?
Because it wasn't on the list of approved subjects as defined by united's PR dept.

It really is incredible that a handful of blues cannot spot the innate sense of bias within the media, especially the written press, in spite of manifest supporting evidence.

None of these spineless charlatans would dare write such a sneering, derogatory article about united. Herbert, like bullies and cowards always do, picks on City because he knows he can do so with impunity.

I wouldn't mind quite so much if his writing style wasn't so laboured and dreary.
Oh i can see it, but it makes me laugh how so many people are so sensitive to it and get all shirty about it. It makes no odds what anyone in the press or media says.

Nothing anyone has said has stopped us doing any of this:
moving up from a mid table team, to a top five team, to a top three team winning the FAC, to a Prem title winning team.
signing players
bringing in a new DoF and CEO
increasing our attendances (even FAC early rounds against teams from the division below are sell-outs)
attracting new sponsors
signing a new shirt deal
communicating links with one of the world's biggest sports franchises and setting up a joint MLS team with them
etc.

So, for me, the press/media can say what they like. If it's a load of bollocks i'll ignore it, if it's decent i'll pay attention to it. When i see people getting all hot'n'bothered about what they say it makes me laugh a bit so i'll come on here and take the piss out of them a bit.

Whilst there may be one or two on here, who would see pro-United bias in Bonio dog biscuits being packaged in a red carton, the majority of gripes are perfectly legitimate, and born out of frustration that something they love (ie Manchester City) is constantly on the receiving end of deliberate negativity and spite. Always nice to see Blues like your good self, prepared to sneer at them though. Kinda makes rag cafe redundant.......<br /><br />-- Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:08 am --<br /><br />
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Caveman said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Because it wasn't on the list of approved subjects as defined by united's PR dept.

It really is incredible that a handful of blues cannot spot the innate sense of bias within the media, especially the written press, in spite of manifest supporting evidence.

None of these spineless charlatans would dare write such a sneering, derogatory article about united. Herbert, like bullies and cowards always do, picks on City because he knows he can do so with impunity.

I wouldn't mind quite so much if his writing style wasn't so laboured and dreary.
Oh i can see it, but it makes me laugh how so many people are so sensitive to it and get all shirty about it. It makes no odds what anyone in the press or media says.

Nothing anyone has said has stopped us doing any of this:
moving up from a mid table team, to a top five team, to a top three team winning the FAC, to a Prem title winning team.
signing players
bringing in a new DoF and CEO
increasing our attendances (even FAC early rounds against teams from the division below are sell-outs)
attracting new sponsors
signing a new shirt deal
communicating links with one of the world's biggest sports franchises and setting up a joint MLS team with them
etc.

So, for me, the press/media can say what they like. If it's a load of bollocks i'll ignore it, if it's decent i'll pay attention to it. When i see people getting all hot'n'bothered about what they say it makes me laugh a bit so i'll come on here and take the piss out of them a bit.
All of the things you list are correct, but if you believe that how our club is portrayed and therefore perceived has no currency, then you fail to appreciate how the modern world we inhabit operates.

Perhaps you would care to contact the club and notify them that the millions that they currently squander on marketing and public relations could be better utilised in other areas.

It is regrettable that you derive entertainment from laughing at other blues, just because they don't like professional journalists, who are very well rewarded for what they do, mocking and sneering at something they care deeply about.

Feel free to take the piss out of me, mind. That is something I would very much relish :-)

Ah, GDM, you pipped me to the post.......!
 
That article is dire and for me lazy. I think Herbert knew what he was going to write before he stepped foot in the press conference. He just regurgitated the usual tripe and filled in the blanks with a few quotes and put a negative slant on them. We have all seen the press conference and can honestly say I can't see what he saw. I am not alone in this as I heard three different journalists on Talksport yesterday and they all thought he made an impressive first impression especially the first, Dom somebody? I think Herbert has already made his mind up and plunged the depths to put a negative spin on Pelle.

The general vibe seems to be positive from other journalist and more importantly the fans. You can't please all the people all the time.
 
Re: Pellers press conference,not confernce..

mcfc2607 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Hahahah rag cafe...Fucking hell lets post photos of empty seats eh...

Now just remind me...6-1, half empty stadium.

Rag cnuts
haha one of the 'empty seats ' photos, the liverpool one, if you look at the scoreboard im sure it says 00:34 so everyone still coming in.

Here's a belter....

JULY 10, 2013 AT 20:43
Alansmith14 nigeriaRED says:
Forever in our shadow…here in nigeria,out of one 160million people,there are 33million united fans…i can count the number of city fans one hard…small time club
 
just been onto red cafe, seriously too funny... iv lost count of how many times people post "small club" and mention how we beat them on goal difference.

they go on about if moyes said this id be embarrsed etc

THEY HAVE MOYES AS THEIR MANAGER, I WOULD BE EMBARRASED!!
 
kalouk said:
That article is dire and for me lazy. I think Herbert knew what he was going to write before he stepped foot in the press conference. He just regurgitated the usual tripe and filled in the blanks with a few quotes and put a negative slant on them. We have all seen the press conference and can honestly say I can't see what he saw. I am not alone in this as I heard three different journalists on Talksport yesterday and they all thought he made an impressive first impression especially the first, Dom somebody? I think Herbert has already made his mind up and plunged the depths to put a negative spin on Pelle.

The general vibe seems to be positive from other journalist and more importantly the fans. You can't please all the people all the time.


Agreed, but the point is you can't please some people any of the time.
 
LoveCity said:
Ian Herbert has begun the digs already. Look at this travesty, trying to add negatives to everything. Especially the last paragraph where he shows his true colours.

"The most challenging job in world football." I think you'll find that's Real Madrid where there is far more pressure on the manager Herbert, you rag.

There was a cloying, uncomfortable heat in the poky little press cabin on the edge of Manchester City's training ground which is one of the less desirable legacies of the Mark Hughes era and Manuel Pellegrini tried to maintain what froideur he could, as he characterised his succession to the most challenging job in world football as an entirely natural one.

A lot of City supporters sang "You can stick your Pellegrini up your arse" (to the tune of "She'll be Coming Round the Mountain") at May's FA Cup final and it was the subtly choreographed attempt to win these people over which presented the greatest point of interest, when the latest highly-paid manager to have his initials ironed onto a City training top sat in Roberto Mancini's old seat, parading a wrist watch even chunkier than the Italian's.

There was a distinct prickle of defensiveness from Pellegrini when his European trophy haul – one Intertoto Cup – was brought up. His willingness to divulge that both City (in 2007) and Liverpool (in 2010) had pursued him for the jobs that Sven Goran Eriksson and Roy Hodgson eventually filled was also revealing. Considering how unforthcoming Pellegrini was on pretty much every other topic yesterday, this felt like the Chilean letting it be known to City's supporters that the club had accomplished something very important by hiring him. There was a play to the gallery, too, with talk about Manchester United being of no great concern, since he'd dumped them out of the Champions League group stage, in 2005 with Villarreal.

"We passed to the last 16 and Manchester United didn't, so I have experience playing against Manchester United. I know that the most important thing for all the fans is to beat Manchester United and if I am here it is because I am sure we will do it…"

The men who hired Pellegrini will have been delighted by his ability to provide no answer whatsoever to the kind of questions which Mancini would have for breakfast, much to their distaste. He categorically refused, for example, to answer the perfectly relevant question of what he thought of the director of football model of club management, under which he has been hired.

"I think it is better not to talk about that," he said. "Why not?" he was asked. "There are a lot of different things now and I can say what I want but it is difficult to say," he replied.

It was hard to tell if this was Pellegrini having a problem with the axis of power between him and football director Txiki Begiristain, though he would have been under no illusions when he signed his three-year, £10.2m contract. There was nothing enigmatic about Pellegrini's views on Mancini, though. Asked if the supporters' relationship with the man who "comes from Italy to manage Man City" – as they always sang – made him difficult to follow, he declared that Mancini was no more special than others.

"Not only the last manager here [had a following]," Pellegrini said. "I talk about Man City fans: they are incredible. I think I will not have any problem with the loyalty."

Making the right noises about United is a sure-fire way of securing that, which may be why Pellegrini opted for something more bullish than Mancini's perennial claim that the reigning champions have a psychological edge borne of winning over and again. It is the measurement by which United are "five yards ahead," Mancini always used to say. Not so, said Pellegrini. "They have a different history maybe," he insisted. Looking to his interpreter for a rare piece of assistance, he then murmured "encortado especios" (levelling out) before continuing. "In the last three, four or five years last years, Man City have levelled the distance a lot."

But the task Pellegrini faces when football returns next month is unmistakeably greater than the one confronting either David Moyes, across the back field of Carrington, or Jose Mourinho, at Chelsea. That is because Pellegrini is the agent of another radical and fundamental overhaul at City. Despairing of Mancini's many systems – "4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 3-4-2-1 just in the course of one game," one senior executive exclaimed in the midst of last season – and desperate for the 4-3-3 model which will run through all levels of the club, City start the 2013-14 campaign not only with a new manager but an entirely new style of playing. And the club's attempts to build the global awareness which has already seen them busy from New York to Thailand this summer and broadcasting yesterday's press conference in scores of new languages, demand instant results. There can be no one season of bedding in.

Pellegrini did not dismiss the idea that targeting older players this summer – 28-year-old Fernandinho, 27-year-old Jesus Navas and 27-year-old Seville target Alvaro Negredo, with Real's 30-year-old central defender Pepe a lost cause – revealed City to be in need of instant impact players, already rich in experience. "As a coach of course we always want immediate success," he said. Last summer they were buying 21-year-olds. It feels like another tactical shift on the rocky road to world domination.

Pellegrini's near absence of trophies in Europe meant nothing, he said, reflecting his previous work with Villarreal, one unhappy season with Real Madrid and subsequent time at Malaga. "I won a lot of trophies in South America but it is impossible [in Spain]. I started with Villarreal. It is very difficult for Villarreal to win a title in Spain. It is also very difficult for Villarreal to reach the quarter, semi of the Champions League and go second in the league [as they did].

"In Real Madrid with 96 points, we played a whole year against a great Barcelona with [Pep] Guardiola. I am sure if I stayed at Real Madrid we could have won a lot of trophies.

"Malaga is the same as Villarreal. You can't win the title with Malaga. I had twice chances to arrive [in England] before. One was to Manchester City. Liverpool? I was very near, after Real Madrid, to arrive to Liverpool. It was not the right moment but now it is the right moment."

He laughed off chief executive Ferran Soriano's public target of five trophies in as many years in the Pellegrini era: "Just five?" He insisted that the fate of Mancini – sacked after coming second in the Premier League – did not worry him. "No I am not concerned about that. [My target] is not only to win trophies. I promise I will do my best here. We are not in a hurry [to sign more players.] We have people and choices."

And he left the room smiling, shaking the hands pressed into his. Just like Mancini always did, in fact, before the task of delivering City to the land United occupy, in a fraction of the time Sir Alex Ferguson required, proved too great and he found himself out of the club and on his way, leaving the hot seat in the hot room to someone else.

What a load of drivel, the sad bitter tw@.
 
I emailed Sky yesterday to see why the press conference wasn't live. Just had this back from them now, and surprisingly it wasn't an automated response, which is what I was expecting. Now I don't know if they took Moyes' press conference live or not and if they did, the reply is a load of bollocks:

Thank you for contacting Sky Help Centre.

Sky Sports news advise - We didn't actually take the Moyes press conference live. We like to take important pressers live but the clubs often won't let us or technically it isn't possible.

I hope this helps with your enquiry.

Kind regards
Robbie

Sky Help Centre
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sky.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sky.com</a>

Was the Moyes conference actually broadcast on SSN live?
 
One comment about the Press Conference. since the moment City has some players and a Coach from South America would be wiser if the Press Staff alows Pellegrini answer some of the answer in Spanish, Chile send and Latinamerican Media send some reporters to cover that and they were complaining about it. is easy task, Pellegrini can translate and aswer in both lenguages and still most of the Press Conference will be in English. City would care a bit more about south american and latin market in general with that small and thiny detail. just that
 

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