Neither can Pep have it both ways?
I booed them off at half-time because it was not up to our standards and hasn't been for weeks.
Booing the performance is an important distinction, demanding the team find the level it has set and trying to get a reaction.
We played shit at Southampton and for an hour at United, and neither were in front of our own fans.
Pep sprinkled a few home thruths into his rant, some more than valid, but it lies somewhere in between.
It's reverse psychology for dummies and another example that Pep is also not the same person and easily triggered, whether citing net spend trophies, publicly digging out an overweight player, or playing Cancelo on the right wing and then hooking him.
The crowd is disengaged at times, but he's out of order for a few things and he would know it if he didn't live in a complete footballing, lavish bubble.
Our brand of football can be beautiful, but lacks intensity, pace and power, so the majority of the crowd mirror our football, passive until it produces an outcome or reaction?
Other factors will always include the ridiculous cost of tickets. If the Club wants middle class fans and foreign tourists, you will get the crowd you deserve.
City don't want some twentysomething off the local estate spitting bile and spending nothing at the tills while they are there.
Pep doesn't need to tell me this team is way off it.
Guess what, you are paid £20m a year, you see them every day in training, you pick the team.
Sometimes it is simply on Pep, or the players.
I would never tell another fan how to support the team, whether it be at the game or in their own front room.
I'm as hungry as ever for success, never complacent about what we have won.
I'm now 48, however. I'm not the stupid 18 year kid who once shamelessly hissed gas noises at Spurs fans, simply because everyone else did it, sang Munich chants and stood outside the away end goading away supporters.
I'm a dad, I want to sit and enjoy the game with my son, I've lived a fan era which has long since passed. United, Liverpool, I am out of my seat a lot more.
Performances and rivalries will always dictate an atmosphere and level of hostility, same goes for a sense of injustice.
Otherwise we are just self-aware Scousers or Palace fans.
Do you not think that the relationship between fans and team has become too one sided? The point of a club that thrives is a engaged fan base who will support the team through thick and thin and a team on the pitch that plays with heart and effort. We have a team on the pitch who has heart and effort, that cannot be in doubt after it won back to back titles. In addition, a hugely successful team giving us even less of an excuse. But, a fan base that is growing more and more entitled. Yes they’ve played badly for the last 4 games, but the reaction to that shouldn’t be boos. It should be us offering our backing and our voices to try and encourage them on, as pep said he in the press conference a ‘come on city’. Football sometimes isn’t as easy as well we were good a few months ago so just snap out of it city. It’s complex and confidence was probably shot at half time yesterday.
Furthermore, I was at both Southampton and united and the fans clapped the team off after both games- I didn’t hear one boo.
Pep is correct in citing confortability- the idea that we just turn up and expect to be entertained isn’t what football is about. Only one team can win every week and only one team win the premier league. We’ve had the joy of it being us 4 of the last 5 seasons.
He isn’t a perfect manager, but he is the best we will ever get and in my opinion the best that has managed in the premier league. We are privileged to be able to watch this era of Manchester City FC and especially those who can attend the matches. He also understands football and his players at a level that no-one on this forum could ever be capable of. He deserves our unrelenting support for the joy he has brought us but also the way in which he has adopted and defended the club as if his own.
The idea that it is the match day tourists and middle class ruining the atmosphere and that a ‘few more off the estate’ would help is off the mark. It’s the same fans that sing in the kippax every week as probably in most blocks in the stadium. There is no classification of that fan- they are both young and old, middle class or working class etc.
What city should have more than performance and rivalries dictating the atmosphere is a feeling of unwavering trust and engagement with the team by this point. We back the team because we know what they can give us and in return they often give us the lot. A siege mentality that says you are coming to the home of the champions and our support will match that. When the team isn’t playing well we will be there and when they do (basically all the time under Pep)- we will be also. That’s what creates a great atmosphere rather than non-stop singing of inventive/funny chants. It is a feeling of no matter what is happening during that season the whole game will be difficult for any opposition because we don’t give in and we don’t give an inch. The crowd is g’ing up the players and is involved in every decision and tackle. We certainly don’t moan and cuss out a team and players that have given us so much because they are going through a rough patch and we do our bit beyond just being mindless spectators expecting to be entertained.
There is no need to transform into ultras or hooligans or become hyper-aggressive towards other fans. However, there is 100% grounds for improvement in the atmosphere and everyone doing their bit with getting behind the team.
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