Pep Guardiola - 2024/25

[bondsman]

THEY ARE CARRYING INJURIES

But not so bad they can’t come on? Didn’t look injured Weds.

 

[bondsman]

They just come back from injury we can not afford to start them and they get injured?! Because we still have 40+ games to go

Better to start and get a game win then go off than come on cold chasing a game. More likely to get injured that way at any level you play at

 

[kaz7]

But not so bad they can’t come on? Didn’t look injured Weds.

You can have an injury and still play , it is then how you recover the next day , if they didnt recover well then they get just a few minutes next time , enough to keep them ticking over , if is not a hard concept shirley

 

[N1985]

Even if they aren’t carrying those injuries anymore, starting one game doesn’t mean they’re fit enough to start the immediate game after just three days later.

The lack of understanding this from our fans is simply daft.

You're asking for common sense and understanding in completely the wrong place pal. I'd say 75% of people on here have absolutely no idea how football actually works.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

We lost 0:4 at home from the worst Tottenham side in last 2 years.
It doesn’t work. Gundo only doesn’t work.

Have you considered Tottenham could get relegated after facing 115 charges down to the National League South yet they would beat us. Hell they could play a 38 game season against us and would win the league.

There are things that go on in Spurs games that make absolutely no sense.. like us not even scoring a goal there in 5 years.. and they can score a hand ball goal and go on to the UCL semis!

So while your argument may have some weight.. they can't be based on what happened vs Spurs lol.

 

[bondsman]

You can have an injury and still play , it is then how you recover the next day , if they didnt recover well then they get just a few minutes next time , enough to keep them ticking over , if is not a hard concept shirley

Not hard at all. If they hadn’t recovered they shouldn’t be on bench. If they’ve recovered enough to go on when we are chasing a game they can surely start it.

 

[blueparrot]

Not hard at all. If they hadn’t recovered they shouldn’t be on bench. If they’ve recovered enough to go on when we are chasing a game they can surely start it.

Nonsense, if we had a full squad maybe. As it is we get what we can out of what’s available, and it was decided by professionals they were only fit enough to be subs. How could you or any of us possibly have the information to know better.

 

[bondsman]

Nonsense, if we had a full squad maybe. As it is we get what we can out of what’s available, and it was decided by professionals they were only fit enough to be subs. How could you or any of us possibly have the information to know better.

If you’re not fit you’re not fit. Professional or not. If you’re fit enough to go in to chase the game how are you not fit enough to start.

 

[B\connellblue]

You're asking for common sense and understanding in completely the wrong place pal. I'd say 75% of people on here have absolutely no idea how football actually works.

Isn't that the beauty of watching football. We don't need to know anything about recovery times or that xg bollox what ever it is. Just need to see City outscore the opposition. It really is that simple.

 

[Stelea]

Bearing in mind the constant failing of the old guard in midfield, no reason now why
O Reilly or Wright shouldn’t be given a chance.
They have youth, energy and legs plus in the Spurs LC game they were far from the issue.
Never know, one of them could just be the answer when we consider the kids we have sold over the last few years to fund misfits like Nunes and Phillips

 

[blueparrot]

If you’re not fit you’re not fit. Professional or not. If you’re fit enough to go in to chase the game how are you not fit enough to start.

Did you not see our bench, we had to fill it with a not fully fit players. If they were fully fit they’d have started. This isn’t difficult to work out.

 

[blueparrot]

Isn't that the beauty of watching football. We don't need to know anything about recovery times or that xg bollox what ever it is. Just need to see City outscore the opposition. It really is that simple.

Yet you decide on who should be starting or not without knowing anything about it . Explains a lot.

 

[bondsman]

Did you not see our bench, we had to fill it with a not fully fit players. If they were fully fit they’d have started. This isn’t difficult to work out.

So why put them on? Why not put Oreilly and McActee on if it’s just about fitness?

 

[B\connellblue]

Yet you decide on who should be starting or not without knowing anything about it . Explains a lot.

No worse than the rest of the bollox posted on here. Honestly Grealish and Doku had 4 days to recover, didn't miss training, yet were only fit for a few minutes. Not having that. At times Pep's being economical with the truth. Did he think juventus was the more important game and it probably is to be fair?

 

[blueparrot]

So why put them on? Why not put Oreilly and McActee on if it’s just about fitness?

Maybe because Grealish and Doku are far better players even not fully fit,when chasing a game. Or do you think Pep didn’t to win the game. This is fucking bonkers, seems like the bad run has brought match day thread madness out into other threads.

 

[blueparrot]

No worse than the rest of the bollox posted on here. Honestly Grealish and Doku had 4 days to recover, didn't miss training, yet were only fit for a few minutes. Not having that. At times Pep's being economical with the truth. Did he think juventus was the more important game and it probably is to be fair?

Thanks doctor, glad you can see players fitness with no experience or examination. NHS could do with more like you ,save a fortune. Yes Pep looks at the bigger picture, maybe explain why he’s one the best and most successful coaches, ever.

 

[bondsman]

Maybe because Grealish and Doku are far better players even not fully fit,when chasing a game. Or do you think Pep didn’t to win the game. This is fucking bonkers, seems like the bad run has brought match day thread madness out into other threads.

so we are willing to risk them to chase a game but not to try to win it from the start? Neither Doku or Jack looked like they were struggling against forest. In fact it was KDB who left the field early having dropped to his haunches. IF they’ve recovered enough aren’t fit to start then surely Pep has to do something different shape wise or tactically rather than stick Nunes on wing, apparently he’s a CM - personally I don’t rate him in either position. We have two CMs on bench who are young and surely have more legs than Gundo who. Is currently giving ball away so frequently they couldn’t really do worse. So fit or not fit that team selection cost us. As playing Nunes and Rico seems to keep doing. Feyenord 3-0 up at home they go into midfield and we fall apart. Pep keeps saying it’s on him to fina a solution. He found one against forest he put Grealish in CM. Bar that he’s tried not a lot and persists at times with same choices and expects different outcomes. I get that we are lacking quality personnel but let’s have it right if it’s just about not having fit players why until we are losing/chasing games what’s the point of having Oreilly wright on the squad list bench. They’re as involved as Moonchester. Rico needs a rest imho keeps getting hung out to dry.

 

[RayCTID]

Palmer still would be wasting chances if he is at City. Same with our current players. He wouldn't have added anything different that we haven't got (apart from being fit)

 

[blueparrot]

so we are willing to risk them to chase a game but not to try to win it from the start? Neither Doku or Jack looked like they were struggling against forest. In fact it was KDB who left the field early having dropped to his haunches. IF they’ve recovered enough aren’t fit to start then surely Pep has to do something different shape wise or tactically rather than stick Nunes on wing, apparently he’s a CM - personally I don’t rate him in either position. We have two CMs on bench who are young and surely have more legs than Gundo who. Is currently giving ball away so frequently they couldn’t really do worse. So fit or not fit that team selection cost us. As playing Nunes and Rico seems to keep doing. Feyenord 3-0 up at home they go into midfield and we fall apart. Pep keeps saying it’s on him to fina a solution. He found one against forest he put Grealish in CM. Bar that he’s tried not a lot and persists at times with same choices and expects different outcomes. I get that we are lacking quality personnel but let’s have it right if it’s just about not having fit players why until we are losing/chasing games what’s the point of having Oreilly wright on the squad list bench. They’re as involved as Moonchester. Rico needs a rest imho keeps getting hung out to dry.

So in short you beleive Pep did it on some whim and for no good reason at all. Strange opinion of a man that has been so successful over 15 years IMO. Was it just for a laugh?
Stiil you’re entitled without any knowledge of Physio, player recovery after, 90 minutes coming back from injury and the risk of aggravating any niggles to have a different opinion to Citys management and medical staff. Carry on.

 

[sir baconface]

So why put them on? Why not put Oreilly and McActee on if it’s just about fitness?

Because he doesn’t rate them and you know how things work round here.