Pep Guardiola - 2024/25

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decmancity said:
So what's your point. You want Viana to spend no money and then we sleep walk into 10th next year?
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We're sleepwalking into 10th this season after the best part of £180m spent in January.... do you not look at the table or something?

We are currently 4 points from 9th and could well be 4 points from 10th by the end of the weekend. You can't tell me that its unrealistic we could finish 10th given what we are seeing at the moment. We are a shambles.
 
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The Stockport Iniesta said:
Thread's full of either rags, dippers or just ungrateful entitled cunts.

Anyone who wants the greatest manager that's ever been, gone after one bad season is a fucking idiot.
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Nothing about entitlement, just when the club give you +300 million in the past 3 years you should finish above Nottingham Forest.

The combined cost of their Wingers Odoi & Elanga is 20 million pound
 
Ric said:
Really don’t think we have a world class squad right now tbh.
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Am I allowed to be 'PepOut' on here??
I got banned for saying Doku will be playing for Marseille in a couple years.....

Well he came, saw and conquered, grateful for what he has achieved but a season like this is not acceptable, not just referring to the league position. Players don't become bad overnight, his tactics have become obsolete, this inverted full back nonsense pisses me off! only worked the last six months of the treble season, his interviews in press are beyond nauseating.

He's won everything here, go on, take a well deserved break and I guarantee, in 4/5 years he could possibly come back. As it stands he doesn't have the capability to rebuild this squad. ITS BORING!!!

PS; that 20/21 UCL final - recompense is due.
 
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Tevez City said:
Nothing about entitlement, just when the club give you +300 million in the past 3 years you should finish above Nottingham Forest.

The combined cost of their Wingers Odoi & Elanga is 20 million pound
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Let's forget about 100 points and four in a row, shall we? Let's forget about winning the CL and numerous domestic cups?

Remind me how many PL titles the rags have won since Ferguson retired?

Remind me how many PL titles Arsenal have won since they got rid of Wenger?

Getting rid of a tried and trusted winner after one poor season would only be contemplated by fucking cretins.

Some of you cunts had better be careful what you wish for because you'll genuinely have something to moan about when he's gone.
 
I think it's like building a house. What Pep is pursuing is, "Let's delve into structural mechanics, and when we have a sufficiently systematic understanding of architecture, we can construct the most grand and complex buildings." The frustration doesn't lie on the building site, but rather in the fact that you might be sitting at a desk, failing to complete your first day's homework. It's simple; you haven't truly grasped the science yet. For some fans, all of this is too tedious. People would rather see some construction workers immediately using bricks and wood, getting straight to work on building a small house. But for the CFG, the UAE owners who have invested heavily certainly hope to see a magnificent super project.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Let's forget about 100 points and four in a row, shall we? Let's forget about winning the CL and numerous domestic cups?

Remind me how many PL titles the rags have won since Ferguson retired?

Remind me how many PL titles Arsenal have won since they got rid of Wenger?

Getting rid of a tried and trusted winner after one poor season would only be contemplated by fucking cretins.

Some of you cunts had better be careful what you wish for because you'll genuinely have something to moan about when he's gone.
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In fairness we did win premier league titles and domestic cups without him as well.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Let's forget about 100 points and four in a row, shall we? Let's forget about winning the CL and numerous domestic cups?

Remind me how many PL titles the rags have won since Ferguson retired?

Remind me how many PL titles Arsenal have won since they got rid of Wenger?

Getting rid of a tried and trusted winner after one poor season would only be contemplated by fucking cretins.

Some of you cunts had better be careful what you wish for because you'll genuinely have something to moan about when he's gone.
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Pellegrini won the double in his first season

Roberto Di Matteo won the CL for Chelsea in his first few months

Bayern won 6 trophies including the CL before Pep arrival
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Let's forget about 100 points and four in a row, shall we? Let's forget about winning the CL and numerous domestic cups?

Remind me how many PL titles the rags have won since Ferguson retired?

Remind me how many PL titles Arsenal have won since they got rid of Wenger?

Getting rid of a tried and trusted winner after one poor season would only be contemplated by fucking cretins.

Some of you cunts had better be careful what you wish for because you'll genuinely have something to moan about when he's gone.
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There is absolutely no doubt that Pep has been our greatest ever manager and he will probably remain the greatest through all of our lifetimes. I don't think anyone can argue he's not and I'd be amazed if we see the level and frequency of success from any club in the premier league for a long long time, not just city for that matter.

But we are now in March 2025, like it or not his previous successes have no bearing on whats going to happen in the future. He has never had to deal with a period like we are experiencing in his managerial career before so people are rightly questioning if he's the right man to get us through it - if we end up finishing 10th which isn't out of the question I think that would vindicate those questions being asked.

Hes been responsible for a ridiculous amount of success but is now equally as responsible for whats happened this season which -lets not sugar coat it - could end up being disastrous.
 
bellsouth said:
The argument isn’t about the past, that’s undeniably outstanding under Pep. But the present is a worry, not just because of results but the style of play just isn’t working anymore against how most Premier League sides play now.
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Premier league is going physical again but with talent to back it up. Mourinho got left behind by Pep's tactics. Pep needs to make sure it doesn't happen to him. I think the increased physicality of the league has exaggerated the decline of players like Kev, Gundog and Bernardo. Phil is struggling as well. Pep and Viana need to recognise the shift in player abilities when recruiting in the future.
 
bellsouth said:
The argument isn’t about the past, that’s undeniably outstanding under Pep. But the present is a worry, not just because of results but the style of play just isn’t working anymore against how most Premier League sides play now.
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Who would you want to build our new team squad then? We just won it all since pep been here now after players are exhausted getting old a season of never ending injuries we have fans coming out with to be fair entitlement! Yeah you can discuss it but at the end of that is we should give Pep the time to get new players to turn it around in the next two seasons!

Anyone thinks a new manager would speed up that process is naive..
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Let's forget about 100 points and four in a row, shall we? Let's forget about winning the CL and numerous domestic cups?

Remind me how many PL titles the rags have won since Ferguson retired?

Remind me how many PL titles Arsenal have won since they got rid of Wenger?

Getting rid of a tried and trusted winner after one poor season would only be contemplated by fucking cretins.

Some of you cunts had better be careful what you wish for because you'll genuinely have something to moan about when he's gone.
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if anyone is pep out that's fine but who would you want to bring in and be realistic and how long do you give them to start winning trophies because if it's longer than a season why aren't we giving that same grace to pep
 
madloaf said:
In fairness we did win premier league titles and domestic cups without him as well.
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what at the rate we have been doing this comment is also funny when people don't trust this board to rebuild this squad considering they have managed to assemble a squad to win titles for 3 different managers
 
Pep has to take a lot of the criticism for how this season has gone as he and Txiki have failed to see what has been coming and haven’t reacted. Their call not to start the overhaul last summer now looks to be the biggest mistake made in the modern era and one which will seriously hamper the short/mid term future. We need to see change, adaptation and learning and I am hopeful we will. I think it was time for new ideas and the recent transfer record does point to it being time for txiki to move on. But Pep has so much credit in the bank, has shown he can adapt before and is a genius. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. I am sure he will have learnt from his mistakes and next season we will start to see a new side form and one which will challenge for the title in a few seasons time.
 
Blue2202 said:
We're sleepwalking into 10th this season after the best part of £180m spent in January.... do you not look at the table or something?

We are currently 4 points from 9th and could well be 4 points from 10th by the end of the weekend. You can't tell me that its unrealistic we could finish 10th given what we are seeing at the moment. We are a shambles.
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Yeah I'm aware.

What's that got to do with spending this summer?
 
thomas1307 said:
if anyone is pep out that's fine but who would you want to bring in and be realistic and how long do you give them to start winning trophies because if it's longer than a season why aren't we giving that same grace to pep
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Correct look at the rags who panic into sacking managers for fun and Chelsea when was the last time they won the league 7/8 years ago?

I know our owner and chairman won't panic pep will get as much time as HE Needs..
 
Goater101 said:
It isn’t Pep’s fault that Savinho missed a sitter, that Doku can’t cross, Ortega gets beat by a free kick on his side or Khusanov knees one into his own net. The performance in general wasn’t that bad. The team is run into the ground and lack confidence. Like I mentioned the core of this squad is either injured or playing shit. What other options have we got to play in midfield or defence
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Well from that argument a manager is never responsible if the players being poor has nothing to do with him:-)

Look at the space given to Brighton due to the positioning and work rate of our players. Teams run at us at will. That is 100% down to the manager.
 
waspish said:
Correct look at the rags who panic into sacking managers for fun and Chelsea when was the last time they won the league 7/8 years ago?

I know our owner and chairman won't panic pep will get as much time as HE Needs..
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exactly i've seen many fans say can't talk about past successes because that's what united do but first sign that things aren't working out sack the manager which is just as you said
 
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