Pep Guardiola - 2024/25

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What makes everyone think he is the best man for the re build???

Pep has never had to build a team from scratch in his career.

At Barca he had a host of talent like Messi, Pedro, Villa, Iniesta, Xavi

At Bayern he had Ribery, Kroos, Neur, Lahm, Muller.

When he took us over he has the likes of Sterling, Aguero, KDB, Fernandinho, Silva.

There is no guarantee he will assemble a squad from scratch and make us look like world beaters again.
 
What makes everyone think he is the best man for the re build???

Pep has never had to build a team from scratch in his career.

At Barca he had a host of talent like Messi, Pedro, Villa, Iniesta, Xavi

At Bayern he had Ribery, Kroos, Neur, Lahm, Muller.

When he took us over he has the likes of Sterling, Aguero, KDB, Fernandinho, Silva.

There is no guarantee he will assemble a squad from scratch and make us look like world beaters again.
If you don’t think Pep rebuilt the team he inherited here then I think you must be watching a different sport.
 
given the fact that pep has said he was the one who nixed the rebuild in the summer, despite the evidence last year the old favourites were falling off and he played them thru the winter instead of giving mcatee or o reilly a run, and then he continues to play them after new signings have been brought in to share the load. i dont know, its a dreadful season from pep.

He's earned a year, but if we spend 300 mil on midfielders and pep keeps playing gundo and bernardo next year, I think thats genuinely negligible and he should go at that point. first couple of months of next season are huge.
 
If you don’t think Pep rebuilt the team he inherited here then I think you must be watching a different sport.
From scratch?

He already had KDB, Sterling, Aguero, Silva, Kompany at his disposal.

All he had to do was sprinkle it with a few more decent players.

This rebuild is off the scale to what he had when he took over.

Maybe it's you that needs to watch another sport??
 
From scratch?

He already had KDB, Sterling, Aguero, Silva, Kompany at his disposal.

All he had to do was sprinkle it with a few more decent players.

This rebuild is off the scale to what he had when he took over.

Maybe it's you that needs to watch another sport??
Ok, using your criteria tell me a manager in recent times that completely rebuilt a team “from scratch”?
 
Ok, using your criteria tell me a manager in recent times that completely rebuilt a team “from scratch”?
All I'm saying is

When Pep came through the door he already had a decent foundation of players at his disposal. Like the players I mentioned.

Same as his career at Barca N Bayern. He was blessed with world class players in the squad.

Now he has 3 or 4 at City going forward.

He is in uncharted territory. Will he get it right?

Is a big gamble.
 
What makes everyone think he is the best man for the re build???

Pep has never had to build a team from scratch in his career.

At Barca he had a host of talent like Messi, Pedro, Villa, Iniesta, Xavi

At Bayern he had Ribery, Kroos, Neur, Lahm, Muller.

When he took us over he has the likes of Sterling, Aguero, KDB, Fernandinho, Silva.

There is no guarantee he will assemble a squad from scratch and make us look like world beaters again.
I'm absolutely certain he'll be fine I'm sure he's sleeping well tonight planning his next winning team.
 
I'm absolutely certain he'll be fine I'm sure he's sleeping well tonight planning his next winning team.
Don't see how anyone could sleep well knowing we only got 1 point out of 6 against one of the worst United teams ever.

If he is still here for the rebuild, then we need to take away his old guard.
 
All I'm saying is

When Pep came through the door he already had a decent foundation of players at his disposal. Like the players I mentioned.

Same as his career at Barca N Bayern. He was blessed with world class players in the squad.

Now he has 3 or 4 at City going forward.

He is in uncharted territory. Will he get it right?

Is a big gamble.
You said in your original post that he had 5 world class players when he arrived at City, but now only has 3-4 so is uncharted territory? I’m sure he’ll be fine, but if not we’ll reassess at the end of next season. Do you think he should leave at the end of this season?!
 
You said in your original post that he had 5 world class players when he arrived at City, but now only has 3-4 so is uncharted territory? I’m sure he’ll be fine, but if not we’ll reassess at the end of next season. Do you think he should leave at the end of this season?!
Yes.

On the whole the football this season has been bang average.

Yes we have had injuries. So have other teams.

But we are boring to watch. No excitement whatsoever. His playing style this season has been put to pasture by more direct attacking football.
 
All I'm saying is

When Pep came through the door he already had a decent foundation of players at his disposal. Like the players I mentioned.

Same as his career at Barca N Bayern. He was blessed with world class players in the squad.

Now he has 3 or 4 at City going forward.

He is in uncharted territory. Will he get it right?

Is a big gamble.
What a stupid statement. No manager ever rebuilds a squad of 11 players. He has rebuild 1 Barca squad and 2 City squads. He inherited Yaya, Deco, Zambrota, Ronaldinho, Etoo, Marquez, Henry, Gio Van Bronckorst all as starters in Barca 06-08. In 08/09, Busquets, Xavi/Iniesta (normally only one of them played as starter), Pique, Alves, Abidal were the starters. By the next season all of them were gone and it was Pedro, Villa, Xavi/Iniesta, Pique, Alves, Busquets the starters. So 6 out of the 11 he inherited (and Mascherano and Maxwell would soon replace Puyol and Abidal). That is HUGE change.

Here in City, like you said he had Silva, Kompany, KDB, Sterling, Aguero and Fernandinho. By second year Kompany was injured more often than not. Silva would be soon gone, so he had to include 6-7 new players in the starting 11 compared to what he inherited from Pellegrini. And from the 17-19 team to the 21-24 team, only Ederson, Stones, Walker, Gundogan, KDB and Silva would have an important role. Dias, Ake, Rodri, Foden, Haaland, Grealish would all be important players.

Right now we are in a similar boat: Dias, Gvardiol, Rodri, Foden, Haaland are clearly world-class, are absolute starters next season and still are at the age to keep the level for the next 3-4 years. And the jury is still out for Marmoush, Khusanov and Savinho who I think all have clear signs of being world-class. We have 5 (potentially 6-7 players that are absolutely starters).
 
Yes.

On the whole the football this season has been bang average.

Yes we have had injuries. So have other teams.

But we are boring to watch. No excitement whatsoever. His playing style this season has been put to pasture by more direct attacking football.
It’s boring by choice that’s the real kick in the dick. There are players that he could play and it’d change the entire dynamic and couldn’t possibly be worse.
 
The team is lifeless. He's coached the fun, flair, excitement, instinctive football out of them. The talent is still there, this isn't due to lack of ability and we don't need a major rebuild.

I think he needs to get back to basics in the summer break and loosen it up a bit. Swapping Lillo out for someone with fresh ideas may help him.
 
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