Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

FromPollockToSilva said:
Question for everyone: When Pep eventually leaves (whether he renews or not), would you prefer Txiki and his team to continue or would you want a full sea change in the football (rather than business) leadership of the club?
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We won’t change the philosophy of the club. The Sheikh and KAM want the team to play this way. It has been successful. Before pep was not a bed of roses. We had no identity and players threw bob under the bus at the end.We should have another fa cup. What we have now is a lot more professional and a clear mindset of who we are and how we play. Transfers are a lotto draw. Scum are finding that out. Liverpool have hit the jackpot recently but only recently before that they were garbage.

The mahrez signing is still annoying me. Good player in a highlights reel but a lazy git most of the time. We can’t have passengers in attack and this is what we have.
 
Hopefully you all, like myself, have calmed down a bit from yesterdays debacle. I was trying to pinpoint something that I feel has been not right for a while, something that is lacking with the current group of players. I came up with personality and fun.

Prior to the last few games Pep rolls out - and I know he's never had a love affair with the British media - with a sullen, angry approach. Before the Leicester game he sounded more like Maureen - moaning about fixtures, players rest etc. I'm not sure he realises it but that kind of sets the tone for our entire club. We all are not having the greatest of times during this pandemic but football is our entertainment, the 90 mins that takes us away from everyday worries. Players are paid so much to play. I once spoke at length to Ian Bishop and he said most players would prefer to play more games than train! different times maybe but it's still a damn fine way to make a fortune.

I remember seeing the training session films when Pep first arrived and the players were really enjoying their work. The main instigators of that attitude are either gone or are on the fringes of the team. Bernardo is a case in point - for me, when fit, he would be in the starting 11 every single time. He understands that yes it's only a game but certain things, like his guard of honour actions, mean a lot to us fans. His work rate is incredible and I don't think he would have allowed himself to capitulate like some yesterday. He is always smiling and appears to be a good influence to all. It helps he's very talented too. The game needs personalities and I feel looking at yesterday we didn't have a single player who thought - "This is crap, I'm going to do something about it."

Maybe I'm over simplifying it -but one thing that drew me in way back in the mid 70's was we were always different and it was always fun to watch - even in the worst of times. I don't want to come across as being entitled, we leave that to the lot from the other side of town - We have been incredibly lucky to witness such a talented team for a decade or so - we've won more trophies than I ever dreamed we would. But, going forward I want to see a return of personalities, sprinkled with a bit of humour that makes us fun to watch. We have not become a poor side overnight and I don't doubt individual ability - I still think man for man we are the most talented squad in the PL but It is as a team that enjoys playing as well as each others company that will make the difference. If Pep can lead again with that wry wit that we love we will be fine - he just seems low and looking a bit negative which has seeped into the team. I'm sure It will be fixed but it needs to happen soon - I don't think any of us want to re-live the final 30 minutes of yesterday again.

Just my musings, so please forgive the length of the post - it's part of my therapy ha!
 
Pep should understand that his ideas are based on moving ball quickly and quick movements of the players. Therefore faster and fitter players move faster and can realize his ideas better.

When Pep came first to England, this was the case and City completed transfers of rapid players such as Sane, Walker. Then for some strange reasons, Pep and the team Txiki changed their strategy making technical and passing ability first and foremost priority rather than looking for players who are quick, mobile and have good technical skills. Especially, very intelligent people like Pep should know very well that if slower playerʼs passing ability is not on once-in-generation level such as Xaviʼs, then it isn't worth
to build a team around them by sacrificing team mobility and movement. It is clear that Rodriʼs or Gundoganʼs passing ability is not dozens levels above over quick and mobile midfielders such as Thomas Parteyʼs.

The same holds true for Mahrez. His technical ability is not several times better than ability of Sane or winger of similar quality.
 
FromPollockToSilva said:
I’d love us to have some more City people in our club hierarchy, the way clubs like Bayern and Ajax do.
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To be fair the main requirement to work at Bayern seems to be tax evasion convictions, not football heritage. Although I admit, I really don’t like the hypocrites of Munich, so I might be biased.
 
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To be fair the main requirement to work at Bayern seems to be tax evasion convictions, not football heritage. Although I admit, I really don’t like the hypocrites of Munich, so I might be biased.
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Can’t stand them as individuals either, but they’re Bayern through and through. Ours would obviously be of far better character
 
the_tevez_wiggle said:
Love how you just sidestep the points made. Makes me think you have an agenda.

1) name 1/2 world class gettable leftbacks?
2) why do we always regress after a successfull period no matter who is manager? Even though its the same recruitment team.
3) only weak spots in our team now is lb and a more mobile cdm, hardly average now nevermind close to being below average.
4) is it peps fault that laporte, cancelo, stones, zinchenko, gundogan, bernado, mahrez(only just returned from positive covid 19 test), Jesus and kun are all injured at once.
5) is it peps fault the recruitment team took months to bring in a cb hes needed for 2 seasons?

He has a re build on his hands and if you look it isn't going too bad. Take a step back look at it.

Steffan/ederson not a better gk duo in Europe
Walker/cancelo/couto perfect blend
Dias/stones/thb strong
Laporte/ake perfect
?/mendy 1st teamer needed
Rodri/? Mobile cdm needed
Kdb/bernado perfect
Foden/doyle so much potential (would like aouer)
Sterling/braaf great 1st teamer braaf all potential.
Mahrez/torres strong
Kun/jesus/delap perfect blend.

Sell gundogan, zinchenko, nico and keep ferna around as club captain this year buy lb & cdm with cash.

Next year kun, ferna will leave and sell mahrez replace kun & mahrez and you have pep 2.0 team ready to go again. With some amazing kids snapping at heels to get in to the squad.

All in all he's doing a great job. Not many managers finish top 4 never mind top 2 transitioning a squad and losing players like kun, silva, sane, yaya, ferna, kompany (basically the whole spine) within 3 years on top of kdb out for over half a season, laporte nearly a full season, same with stones and sane. Yes he had faith mendy could come back as he was before, so did i, but I'm glad he did. Yes its cost us results but imagine the morale if he just got sold. Every player scared to go in hard/run themselves into the ground incase of a bad injury and no loyalty or patience shown.

Tell me again, truthfully, does he deserve to be sacked?
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That's a well put together post. There's plenty of good points in it as well. Something needs to happen soon though. The same old weaknesses are there from last seasons horror show in the league. The football is boring to watch and that's the last thing you'd expect from a Pep team. I cant get my head around the fact we keep getting beat by the same tactics yet never sort out our fragilities.
 
the_tevez_wiggle said:
Love how you just sidestep the points made. Makes me think you have an agenda.

1) name 1/2 world class gettable leftbacks?
2) why do we always regress after a successfull period no matter who is manager? Even though its the same recruitment team.
3) only weak spots in our team now is lb and a more mobile cdm, hardly average now nevermind close to being below average.
4) is it peps fault that laporte, cancelo, stones, zinchenko, gundogan, bernado, mahrez(only just returned from positive covid 19 test), Jesus and kun are all injured at once.
5) is it peps fault the recruitment team took months to bring in a cb hes needed for 2 seasons?

He has a re build on his hands and if you look it isn't going too bad. Take a step back look at it.

Steffan/ederson not a better gk duo in Europe
Walker/cancelo/couto perfect blend
Dias/stones/thb strong
Laporte/ake perfect
?/mendy 1st teamer needed
Rodri/? Mobile cdm needed
Kdb/bernado perfect
Foden/doyle so much potential (would like aouer)
Sterling/braaf great 1st teamer braaf all potential.
Mahrez/torres strong
Kun/jesus/delap perfect blend.

Sell gundogan, zinchenko, nico and keep ferna around as club captain this year buy lb & cdm with cash.

Next year kun, ferna will leave and sell mahrez replace kun & mahrez and you have pep 2.0 team ready to go again. With some amazing kids snapping at heels to get in to the squad.

All in all he's doing a great job. Not many managers finish top 4 never mind top 2 transitioning a squad and losing players like kun, silva, sane, yaya, ferna, kompany (basically the whole spine) within 3 years on top of kdb out for over half a season, laporte nearly a full season, same with stones and sane. Yes he had faith mendy could come back as he was before, so did i, but I'm glad he did. Yes its cost us results but imagine the morale if he just got sold. Every player scared to go in hard/run themselves into the ground incase of a bad injury and no loyalty or patience shown.

Tell me again, truthfully, does he deserve to be sacked?
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excellent post

box to box midfielder,and a lb ,weve pretty much got our CB,get the players back who are ill or injured and things wont look so bad
 
citymad said:
In the cold light of day this is probably the most sensible post of the day and thread. Even Pep cant do much about injuries and having to play shit players in defence.
The truth is we got well and truly mugged by a brilliant and ruthless striker playing in a well disciplined, hard working and talented team. Can you just imagine how many goals we would score if Vardy was our front man ?
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Probably not a lot Pep doesn’t play counter
 
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