Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

[CWMCFC]

Jack Harrison has gotten an absolute ton of shit from Leeds fans for not doing enough and disappearing in games this season so I’m not too sure he’d be good enough for us.

Not good enough for us doesn’t mean we can’t get more than £10m for him.

That’s the going rate of a good championship player, which he is of a higher quality.

It’s just another example of our board not being good enough in the market.

 

[levets]

There is a purge coming. Rodri, Mahrez, Mendy and Bernardo are goners next summer.

A decision on Sergio won't be made until next May.

Pep wants to rip it up and start again, with the full support of Khaldoon.

There is a train of thought that only Mendy will be difficult to do some proper horse-trading on.

Sergio being courted by Miami in MLS... source is his partner.

 

[David Silva #21]

So then why was the summer business rubbish

They solved our CB problem
but now we don't have a good striker ( Jesus isn't good enough )
we have issues at LB
and 3rd guy of our midfield has became a great issue. Rodri and KDB will always play but the 3rd guy that should complete our midfield is a puzzle. Gundogan, Bernardo and Foden are not good enough for David Silva's role.

 

[levets]

I follow Aguero's missus (fit) on Instagram. She posted an image of them packing up and moving out this week. Seems odd to move considering his contract running out soon

They are going to buy property if he extends his contract, which he hopes to do. Sofi thinks they have another season in Manchester before moving to Miami.

 

[Centurions]

There is a purge coming. Rodri, Mahrez, Mendy and Bernardo are goners next summer.

A decision on Sergio won't be made until next May.

Pep wants to rip it up and start again, with the full support of Khaldoon.

There is a train of thought that only Mendy will be difficult to do some proper horse-trading on.

Is that just your opinion TH or info from contacts?

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The idea that City were “crippled” off the pitch is nonsense. The idea that that somehow has effected the players is nonsense too. You’ve lost yourself in the ideological argument too as ive no idea what your point is - play like we did in 2018? Isn’t that the problem? People want Pep to change but his idea of football remains constant. Control possession and control the game.


As if. City don’t exist in a vacuum, progress isn’t always linear when you’re dealing in competitive sport, and there isn’t a more successful “team” in the league over the last decade than City under Khaldoon, Soriano, and Txiki. So much hysteria about what amounts to two bad transfer windows and two iffy PL campaigns.

If you're going to ignore the psychological impact the coach attack and being continually screwed out of games against the Dippers and Spurs both domestically and in Europe by VAR then more fool you, it's clear we mentally gave up early last season because we weren't resilient anymore to deal with the setbacks.

No, the whole ideological argument is we went away from a City version of Pep (athletic Dinho as DM and out and out wingers) to a Barca version with Plodri and inverted wingers which has made us less effective as Pep removes the compromises he had to make early on and pushed towards an ideological vision that Tolmie has hinted this afternoon has been deemed a failure and 18 months of dismantling the best team of all time will be ripped up next summer. It's been a complete fuck-up by management and people have been arguing what's been revealed today for the past year.

 

[Benarbia’s Backheel]

There is a purge coming. Rodri, Mahrez, Mendy and Bernardo are goners next summer.

A decision on Sergio won't be made until next May.

Pep wants to rip it up and start again, with the full support of Khaldoon.

There is a train of thought that only Mendy will be difficult to do some proper horse-trading on.

With all due respect, that’s absolute rubbish. If Pep is still about then Rodri and Mahrez won’t be going anywhere.

 

[domalino]

The idea that City were “crippled” off the pitch is nonsense. The idea that that somehow has effected the players is nonsense too. You’ve lost yourself in the ideological argument too as ive no idea what your point is - play like we did in 2018? Isn’t that the problem? People want Pep to change but his idea of football remains constant. Control possession and control the game.


As if. City don’t exist in a vacuum, progress isn’t always linear when you’re dealing in competitive sport, and there isn’t a more successful “team” in the league over the last decade than City under Khaldoon, Soriano, and Txiki. So much hysteria about what amounts to two bad transfer windows and two iffy PL campaigns.

I 99% agree with you but selling Rodri would be a pretty damning thing to do.

For a start, they had years to get this transfer right. They decided FDJ was too much, they decided not to play games with Jorginho, then they had an entire year to pinpoint the guy they needed and settled on Rodri, who it's worth remembering was valued much higher than €70m by Atletico Madrid, who had given him that buyout clause before he arrived at the club when he was still breaking through at Villarreal - they wanted it to be double that, and Rodri was regarded as the best defensive midfielder in Spain.

So now by replacing him they would be admitting that they picked the wrong guy. Not a guy who isn't good enough, but one who didn't suit the system, which is really bad.

However, this guy who's being shipped off in the summer is still undroppable in 2020/2021. So what does that say about Fernandinho? or Gundogan? or even Tommy Doyle? They're all worse than the guy who's so bad he's getting hooked.

 

[BillyShears]

If you're going to ignore the psychological impact the coach attack and being continually screwed out of games against the Dippers and Spurs both domestically and in Europe by VAR then more fool you, it's clear we mentally gave up early last season because we weren't resilient anymore to deal with the setbacks.

No, the whole ideological argument is we went away from a City version of Pep (athletic Dinho as DM and out and out wingers) to a Barca version with Plodri and inverted wingers which has made us less effective as Pep removes the compromises he had to make early on and pushed towards an ideological vision that Tolmie has hinted this afternoon has been deemed a failure and 18 months of dismantling the best team of all time will be ripped up next summer. It's been a complete fuck-up by management and people have been arguing what's been revealed today for the past year.

I'm okay with the senior management that brought 198 points over two seasons fucking up. I'm not even being facetious when I say that. Ultimately Pep is being judged by the standards he set, and to a large extent that's fine. He got those plaudits and now he has to live up to those seasons and in a more general sense all the great teams he's built.

I get the frustration with Rodri, he's been a bad signing. Same with Mahrez. I wouldn't defend either of those buys, and I think I've said before that for me there's been a pretty big level of complacency from the top down since the summer of 2018. But in the end, I don't want anyone else 'fixing' it. Begiristain, Guardiola, and Khaldoon between them have built one team and they can build another one.

The money doesn't matter to me btw. I'm not a bean counter, I could care less what a player costs. A player is either successful or a failure based on what they do on the pitch. If they're cheap great, and if they cost a world record fee, well that's why we have the owners we do.

 

[BillyShears]

I 99% agree with you but selling Rodri would be a pretty damning thing to do.

For a start, they had years to get this transfer right. They decided FDJ was too much, they decided not to play games with Jorginho, then they had an entire year to pinpoint the guy they needed and settled on Rodri, who it's worth remembering was valued much higher than €70m by Atletico Madrid, who had given him that buyout clause before he arrived at the club when he was still breaking through at Villarreal - they wanted it to be double that, and Rodri was regarded as the best defensive midfielder in Spain.

So now by replacing him they would be admitting that they picked the wrong guy. Not a guy who isn't good enough, but one who didn't suit the system, which is really bad.

However, this guy who's being shipped off in the summer is still undroppable in 2020/2021. So what does that say about Fernandinho? or Gundogan? or even Tommy Doyle? They're all worse than the guy who's so bad he's getting hooked.

I think they thought they had FDJ locked down. In the end he 'chose' Barcelona. City put it out afterwards that they weren't going to pay what Barcelona paid in fee or wages, but that isn't the point because he chose to go to Barcelona and made the decision for City.

I'm really not arsed about how 'bad' a buy Rodri is. I just want them to identify that they have to sign another player in that position. What they do with Rodri is neither here nor there. Fernandinho's definitely off so he'll definitely be a useful squad player if nobody wants to pay money for him.

Obviously I could be mental, but I think that the whole 'double pivot' thing isn't about Gundo/Rodri. It's that he doesn't trust Foden or Bernardo in that position that only leaves him with those two and KDB as his go to selection. In a weird way I sort of get it with Bernardo because he's been so bad and so ineffective it's painful to watch. But the Phil thing seems a bit harsh. He may not be David Silva in terms of his game intelligence, but his physicality and dynamism more than makes up for it.

The season is long and I don't think even if he wants to he'll be able to play Gundo/Rodri all season. At some point he'll have to 'trust' one of the others.