Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

[RayCTID]

No chance of Arteta from returning. He is at his club and there would be other candidates ahead of him.

 

[domalino]

Maybe Arteta will have impressed enough at Arsenal to warrant consideration in a few years time, but not yet.

Depends how well Arteta and everyone at the club still get on.

 

[momo88]

That seems to escape some people. Pep does not do these things out of arrogance. It's popular to claim that he overthinks things, and maybe he does at times but it's the fact that he thinks so much about things that has helped him to achieve huge success as a manager and will hopefully lead to him solving the problems the team currently faces.

One thing Pep demands from his team is that they run like bastards. That is about as far from arrogant as you can get.

It doesn't just happen with Pep but the number of times I've seen or heard managers slagged when a team they picked and that should have been more than good enough to win a game has lost is many. Sometimes players just don't deliver and blaming the tactics and team selection are just a poor excuse. Top class players should be able to adapt out on the pitch if they need to but they should also get the basics right.

You are right! Unlike other sports Football has many knee jerk reactions and analysis

But

What is the stat of win ratio when gundogan is playing arround Rodri and De Bruyne wide?

Add to that Guardiola had the support of the club to buy players he wants.

The soending need to be justified by results, i am not saying winning a CL at zll cost (tbf i don't care that much), but you cannot miss the chance to get into semi 4 years in row losing against lesser teams Monaco, Liverpool (2 years ago), Spurs and now Lyon

In all of those games except Lyon lost away and shipped goals at home,

 

[jay_mcfc]

Last night wasn’t a one off this season has been awful and plenty including myself said we weren’t winning the CL this year. His record in it is really bad it’s just a fact. I’m hoping that as he hasn’t extended his contract he wasn’t planning on staying. I am hoping he leaves by mutual consent and with our best wishes but we don’t have much time to find a replacement and I don’t think the DOF signings will help any new guy.

Hope I’m wrong but next season will be similar to this.

I didn't think we'd win it either. But it doesn't excuse picking that team and playing in that way. I hope he stays. We clearly need a few players to refresh the squad which will help. The CL is in his hands. He can win it again if he stops getting in his own way. He isn't giving himself and the players the best opportunity to win and that is what sucks.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

But right there is exactly why Pep was so guarded in his team selection. We battered them but conceded twice and there was another few opportunities where they were a over hit pass or wrong selection from other golden opportunities.

I would rather Pep went for it but we all know our defensive limitations and Pep tried to mitigate against that. People calling him arrogant (not you) are well wide of the mark, arrogance would have been playing exactly as we normally do and expecting a different outcome to previous results against United etc who use a low block and then break at pace.

I’d agree with that, maybe, against Munich or a firing PSG but Lyon? I still go back to having just beaten Madrid, home and away, without looking like a different team to the one we’ve watched most of the season. We conceded twice following 2 catastrophic errors from our one proper centre half and the goalkeeper, compounded by Sterling finishing as if he was playing against Liverpool. Pep said, before the game, that the most important thing was that city played in the same way they always play, win or lose and then he picks that team. I can’t remember the keeper saving anything you or I wouldn’t have saved so we weren’t creating anything like the chances we usually do and, with no Aguero in the team, that’s always going to be a problem.
Pep has a problem with experimenting at the wrong time. Why didn’t we try some of these systems in the last few games of the season? As I said, his blueprint was the 2nd half against Madrid and I’m curious what changed in 4 days.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

That seems to escape some people. Pep does not do these things out of arrogance. It's popular to claim that he overthinks things, and maybe he does at times but it's the fact that he thinks so much about things that has helped him to achieve huge success as a manager and will hopefully lead to him solving the problems the team currently faces.

One thing Pep demands from his team is that they run like bastards. That is about as far from arrogant as you can get.

It doesn't just happen with Pep but the number of times I've seen or heard managers slagged when a team they picked and that should have been more than good enough to win a game has lost is many. Sometimes players just don't deliver and blaming the tactics and team selection are just a poor excuse. Top class players should be able to adapt out on the pitch if they need to but they should also get the basics right.

There were some poor performances but the team he picked didn't make any sense.

Playing two holding midfielders whilst playing a high line allowing the opposition to play a ball over the top completely negates the point of playing said holding midfielders - they get by-passed by one simple ball.

In addition, due to their collective lack of pace they were unable to join in our attacks. How many occasions did an outnumbered Sterling et al reach the byeline only to have no-one to cut the ball back to (Rodri and Gundoghan physically cannot make up the ground as they are too pedestrian). Think I clocked it at around 43 minutes the first time it worked from memory.

I am astounded that with the form that Foden has been showing, he didn't make it onto the pitch.

The Manager got it badly wrong........

 

[hilts]

I didn't think we'd win it either. But it doesn't excuse picking that team and playing in that way. I hope he stays. We clearly need a few players to refresh the squad which will help. The CL is in his hands. He can win it again if he stops getting in his own way. He isn't giving himself and the players the best opportunity to win and that is what sucks.

We are of the same opinion apart from I don’t think he can change. Let’s hope I’m completely wrong on this.

 

[p.taker]

I don't think I need to answer that question, it's a bit insulting to be honest.. you can support a team and still voice critic if you see something. I'm not calling for him to be sacked btw.

Not much in your history to such you are a genuine City fan, which is why I asked.

 

[why me? Blue Manchester]

Wish he would make his decision so the club can plan for the future

 

[RayCTID]

Wish he would make his decision so the club can plan for the future

We've already signed Ferran Torres. If things go well we have also have Nathan Ake for a good couple of seasons.

 

[samarasra]

I tell you what, Harry Redknapp wouldn’t have picked Gundogan and left David Silva, Bernado Silva and Phil Foden on the bench. Absolutely no chance.

Guardiola has decided he’s going to play Gundogan in every minute of every single Champions League game. Fuck what’s best for City. He’s going to do what’s best for his ego. Prove himself right.

4 times on the spin he’s been directly, completely and entirely responsible for us going out of the Champions League.

Instead of playing the way we’ve been super-successful, he’s decided when it comes to the Champions League he needs to make it about him. He wants the attention. Fuck what’s best for City, he’s going to do what’s best for his ego.

And he has the fucking cheek, time after time to lay the blame at the club. “This club will one day break the cycle of never being successful in the Champions League”.

But it’s not the club’s fault. The club have given him everything he could possibly need to be successful in the Champions League. But he’s decided to make it all about him so people can laud him for his genius.

Four times is just too many. He’s not going to learn, he’s not going to change. We’ve missed a golden opportunity. For the previous two seasons we were the best team in Europe. We should have won it. We might never get that chance again because we’re in serious regression while Bayern and Liverpool have comprehensively overtaken us.

Time for new ideas and less ego.

"4 times on the spin he’s been directly, completely and entirely responsible for us going out of the Champions League". Really ? No sitters missed ? No defensive howlers conceded ? No referee/var errors ? He also shares responsibility for getting us into the Champions League and you are way OTT. I believe he picked the wrong starting 11 but despite that after Kevin scored they were panicking and we got well on top, Raheem should have put us ahead and we could have gone on to win. Pep didn't miss any chances or concede any goals, so he is not completely and entirely responsible for us going out of the Champions League.

 

[K-Bo]

What I will say is letting Guardiola run down his deal next year and having a season where he gets a 200 mil transfer spend but everyone knows he's going sounds like an awful year to me. It would just be the club putting Pep's preference and welfare above itself and we absolutely shouldn't do that. Sign or we move on and go and get Nagelsmann or Poch or whoever. A zombie season sounds like the worst of all scenarios to me.

 

[Phil1]

The same fans who call him a fraud or other cliche shite are the same fans who would cum in their pants if he rocked up at their club.
In short, a large portion of football fans are hypocrites.

 

[bluemoon32]

An honest question to all, do you WANT Pep to extend?

Forums, twitter full of expert managers . Pep has made a mistake or two and we hopefully will benefit from him putting this right. Apart from Klopp there is no one else, players like Sterling, De Bruyne, Jesus are close to their peak thanks to Pep. Hes a good man and i for one am still proud to have him as our manager. Some of the stuff last night, post match is entitled garbage and twitter is littererd with fake scouse shite. Im an old git now so not as emotional as some especially as the Agueroooooo moment cannot be bettered , i do however have a stubborn desire to see upstart scousers, rags and bayern schooled by a Pep team asap.

I think that's something we can all agree on

 

[Shaelumstash]

"4 times on the spin he’s been directly, completely and entirely responsible for us going out of the Champions League". Really ? No sitters missed ? No defensive howlers conceded ? No referee/var errors ? He also shares responsibility for getting us into the Champions League and you are way OTT. I believe he picked the wrong starting 11 but despite that after Kevin scored they were panicking and we got well on top, Raheem should have put us ahead and we could have gone on to win. Pep didn't miss any chances or concede any goals, so he is not completely and entirely responsible for us going out of the Champions League.

If we’d played a proper team last night, we wouldn’t be relying on an 86th minute equaliser from Sterling. We’d have been out of sight by then.

If we were playing the 7th best team in the PL in a league game, we’d just go out with our normal shape and the most in-form players for those positions and dick them 3-0.

But because it’s the Champions League and the world is watching, Pep believes his own bullshit that he has to prove he’s seen some magical angle that no one else is capable of seeing and play some ridiculous, idiotic, Championship Manager formation.

The players had 3 days to work on it. Playing against a team that has spent months and thousands of hours practicing to play that way. It was fucking idiotic. Players are not robots, or chess pieces. The CL QF is not the time or place for experiments. Trying out your philosophical theory.

It’s a time for getting the job done.
About having faith in your best in class players demonstrate why they’re best in class in their role and giving them the platform to show it.

The first 3 times I can forgive. The 4th, I cannot. He’s putting himself before the team and that can not be allowed to happen again.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Pep made last night all about him yet again
That's the main reason we lost then he had the cheek to say 1 day the club will break the duck.

 

[mccity]

What I will say is letting Guardiola run down his deal next year and having a season where he gets a 200 mil transfer spend but everyone knows he's going sounds like an awful year to me. It would just be the club putting Pep's preference and welfare above itself and we absolutely shouldn't do that. Sign or we move on and go and get Nagelsmann or Poch or whoever. A zombie season sounds like the worst of all scenarios to me.

Bayern once won a treble knowing their manager was leaving at the end of the season. United shithoused a league victory knowing their manager was on the way out.

As long as Pep doesn't surprise the club at short notice then there shouldn't be any issues. I wouldn't be surprised if he's actively involved in finding a successor if he knew he was on his way out.

 

[deegee33]

An honest question to all, do you WANT Pep to extend?

I, for one, do want him to extend. He got it wrong yesterday, no doubt. He is still the best manager in world football and there are an awful lot of teams, who would give their left legs to have the run of success that we have had over the past decade. Pep has been a large, not the only, part of our enjoyment of said success.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I certainly want him to extend.
That said, we need to rebuild and if he isn't prepared to commit to the rebuild then he needs to be replaced now.
Love him to bits but that is where we are. The club is more important than the manager.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Pep reads bluemoon and may go as a result? Don’t get my hopes up fella:-)

No, I don't think he does but I am 95% certain that there are employees of the club who do! That's a response to your first sentence.
See below for the response to the last word in your second sentence!!! *rofl*

Calling Eccles a fella is nearly as bad a take as wanting Pep sacked.. :-)