Philippe Sandler

[Jalfraag]

I'm really not sure of Jalfraag's point here Dickie, but surely you missed Bravo from your list of recent poor buys!

In order to get to the top you make mistakes. Once at the top we've made far fewer mistakes than any other team in the league. Is that clear enough?

 

[rnblade]

Cover for Ferni ???

 

[dickie davies]

In order to get to the top you make mistakes. Once at the top we've made far fewer mistakes than any other team in the league. Is that clear enough?

I think you're losing the plot mate. If you read my post properly I said that our three most recent expensive mistakes were Fernando, Bony and Mangala. All were signed three or four years ago
As @jayfx has said, we're not sure of your point as we all know these signings were years ago and since these our transfer policy on big money signings has been hugely more successful

 

[dickie davies]

Cover for Ferni ???

Not a chance he will ever play for our first team

 

[cleavers]

Not a chance he will ever play for our first team

So you keep saying, why ?

 

[dickie davies]

So you keep saying, why ?

We have a track record/business model of collecting youngish players and farming them out all over Europe in the hope that they will improve and then we trade them on at a profit, plus as I said earlier, 21 year old top talent isn't picked up for £2M
In regards to the first team, we have four extremely competent centre halves. Two admittedly are in their 30's, but the other two are young footballers who everyone believes are the future. Then add to that the two academy players who are knocking on the first team door, Adarabioyo who not long ago signed a £20k a week contract and Cameron Humphreys who equipped himself extremely well on our USA tour

If we're talking about him playing the holding midfield role, well he's also at the back of the queue here. In addition to players from the first team squad, there's also Douglas Luiz who we spent £10M on

I also hate to say this but we give youth very little opportunity and as shown again with the Mahrez transfer, are prepared just to spend big on a ready made player

 

[AshtonBlueMooner]

Pep spent a whopping £5 million on Gerard Pique in 2008, a ball playing centre half. Who says this kid won't be given a chance, if Pep likes what he sees he'll keep him, if not, £2 million isn't a big gamble.

 

[Larry Stranger]

We have a track record/business model of collecting youngish players and farming them out all over Europe in the hope that they will improve and then we trade them on at a profit, plus as I said earlier, 21 year old top talent isn't picked up for £2M
In regards to the first team, we have four extremely competent centre halves. Two admittedly are in their 30's, but the other two are young footballers who everyone believes are the future. Then add to that the two academy players who are knocking on the first team door, Adarabioyo who not long ago signed a £20k a week contract and Cameron Humphreys who equipped himself extremely well on our USA tour

If we're talking about him playing the holding midfield role, well he's also at the back of the queue here. In addition to players from the first team squad, there's also Douglas Luiz who we spent £10M on

I also hate to say this but we give youth very little opportunity and as shown again with the Mahrez transfer, are prepared just to spend big on a ready made player

Both not good enough. Garcia is already ahead of both of them.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Both not good enough. Garcia is already ahead of both of them.

Agreed.

I expect this kid to further push them back.

 

[Neville Kneville]

We have a track record/business model of collecting youngish players and farming them out all over Europe in the hope that they will improve and then we trade them on at a profit, plus as I said earlier, 21 year old top talent isn't picked up for £2M
In regards to the first team, we have four extremely competent centre halves. Two admittedly are in their 30's, but the other two are young footballers who everyone believes are the future. Then add to that the two academy players who are knocking on the first team door, Adarabioyo who not long ago signed a £20k a week contract and Cameron Humphreys who equipped himself extremely well on our USA tour

If we're talking about him playing the holding midfield role, well he's also at the back of the queue here. In addition to players from the first team squad, there's also Douglas Luiz who we spent £10M on

I also hate to say this but we give youth very little opportunity and as shown again with the Mahrez transfer, are prepared just to spend big on a ready made player

He might not play for our first team.

However, City would not be entering into any agreements with Mino Raiola unless they thought he had a chance.

 

[bondsman]

We have a track record/business model of collecting youngish players and farming them out all over Europe in the hope that they will improve and then we trade them on at a profit, plus as I said earlier, 21 year old top talent isn't picked up for £2M
In regards to the first team, we have four extremely competent centre halves. Two admittedly are in their 30's, but the other two are young footballers who everyone believes are the future. Then add to that the two academy players who are knocking on the first team door, Adarabioyo who not long ago signed a £20k a week contract and Cameron Humphreys who equipped himself extremely well on our USA tour

If we're talking about him playing the holding midfield role, well he's also at the back of the queue here. In addition to players from the first team squad, there's also Douglas Luiz who we spent £10M on

I also hate to say this but we give youth very little opportunity and as shown again with the Mahrez transfer, are prepared just to spend big on a ready made player

Sorry but Tosin is not a top premier league defender imho. Never seen anything from him that suggests he will be at city long term

 

[dickie davies]

Sorry but Tosin is not a top premier league defender imho. Never seen anything from him that suggests he will be at city long term

Yet only last year he signed a new 20K+ per week contract

 

[bondsman]

Yet only last year he signed a new 20K+ per week contract

Maybe but that’s hardly a huge amount in today’s game. It doesn’t scream we are locking you down because we rate you.

 

[Otamendi's Beard]

He reminds me of David Luiz when he's on the ball. He appears to have great control and delivers some very accurate long passing, but then also a bit slow to react in defensive situations.

Could turn into an absolute bargain after spending half a season being coached by Pep and Vinny could become a great mentor for him too.

Either way, we'll make money on him.

 

[Father Paul]

He reminds me of David Luiz when he's on the ball. He appears to have great control and delivers some very accurate long passing, but then also a bit slow to react in defensive situations.

Could turn into an absolute bargain after spending half a season being coached by Pep and Vinny could become a great mentor for him too.

Either way, we'll make money on him.

He is injured and out for at least three months following surgery in May according to MEN.

 

[MillionDollarDream]

We have a track record/business model of collecting youngish players and farming them out all over Europe in the hope that they will improve and then we trade them on at a profit, plus as I said earlier, 21 year old top talent isn't picked up for £2M
In regards to the first team, we have four extremely competent centre halves. Two admittedly are in their 30's, but the other two are young footballers who everyone believes are the future. Then add to that the two academy players who are knocking on the first team door, Adarabioyo who not long ago signed a £20k a week contract and Cameron Humphreys who equipped himself extremely well on our USA tour

If we're talking about him playing the holding midfield role, well he's also at the back of the queue here. In addition to players from the first team squad, there's also Douglas Luiz who we spent £10M on

I also hate to say this but we give youth very little opportunity and as shown again with the Mahrez transfer, are prepared just to spend big on a ready made player

He’s one of PEC Zwolle’s highest sales in their history so perspective there on his fee amount. Also have you actually watched him play outside youtube highlights to properly guage where he’s at in terms of development?

 

[Otamendi's Beard]

He is injured and out for at least three months following surgery in May according to MEN.

That's why I said half a season. Assuming he stays and trains with us and doesn't go straight out on loan when fit - maybe in Jan.

 

[dickie davies]

He’s one of PEC Zwolle’s highest sales in their history so perspective there on his fee amount. Also have you actually watched him play outside youtube highlights to properly guage where he’s at in terms of development?

No I haven't, I've only seen him on the youtube vid posted in this thread and I must say watching that I'm completely underwhelmed
Lots on here saying yeah he's worth it and the risk, but there is nothing which I see that gives me any confidence we'll make any money on him, never mind him becoming a first team player

We've just sold Maffeo to Stuttgart for £8M and he looks (albeit different position) ten times the player Sandler is

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Pep spent a whopping £5 million on Gerard Pique in 2008, a ball playing centre half. Who says this kid won't be given a chance, if Pep likes what he sees he'll keep him, if not, £2 million isn't a big gamble.

Me!

This kid won’t be given a chance.

He’s here to earn us money. Buy for £2m now, sell for £3.5m in the future after a loan or two, it’s a profit

 

[Aytoun]

How annoyed would we be if he turned out to be better than Van thingy at dipperpool & we paid a modest 72 million quidº less ?