PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Financial fair play works for us at the moment for what the club wants. Keeps us at the top of the tree in the premier league and stops Newcastle or any other owner wanting to spend from doing so. The club have worked hard to get this far and things like the academy providing a lot of income to be investing back into the playing squad.

The only alternative is not to have it and leg clubs spend what they want. It’s worked for well over a 150 years since football was invented, why did we need to change it?
Agreed in part, but we know that City suggesting no form of finance control in football would be unacceptable.

What I'm seeking is a workable alternative that would stand a chance of at least being considered as a viable alternative...

Perhaps @Prestwich_Blue or @petrusha etc have a solution they can share? )(
 
I'm happy with the current arrangement. We didn't vote for it. We know it's wrong. We know why it was brought in. But we have ultimately run the gauntlet and won. Why should we now vote for something so that the same people who voted in FFP can benefit? The same people who tried to stop us on our march to the top now seek aspirations of their own. For example, Newcastle fans didn't oppose FFP originally. They made their bed. They should now lie in it.
 
If someone asked Neville where the Salford City commercial revenue ranked in League 2 against more established clubs I’d love to see how he can explain why without contradicting himself.

Commercial revenue is a result of 1) brand awareness 2) immediate visibility and 3) potential growth of both.

1) Theres not a football fan globally that is aware of united but not aware of city. EQUAL
2) City are more immediately visible than united because they have better players, play more important games and win more. CITY
3) City are growing faster than United, reaching an increasing number of people for the first time and CFG is important to that. CITY

Then you get into the unfair reasons. 4) Business is all about who you know and taking advantage of those relationships for mutual benefit and 5) Not everyone is equal at selling their own brand.

4) City is a tiny part of a massive investment strategy. Our owner and chairman are some of the most well connected people globally. They have more weight in a boardroom than a glazer does. No one outside the US has a clue or cares who he is.
Why were salford sponsored by sky sports in their early years. Why is Wrexham sponsored by TikTok. Because their owners knew people and got good business for their clubs. City is no different. CITY
5) Our Chairman is the CEO of an investment company managing $284bn in assets globally. Ed woowar who was CEO at united 2013-2021 was an accountant and investment banker that hadnt worked outside United since 2005. Who of those is more likely to have better skills or experience. CITY

There are so many logical reasons our commercial revenue is higher.
but but they have more fans buying merch from the website every single one of them , not one snide shirt from the back streets of jakarta and delhi
 
It's all great & well & completely understandable that we view FFP as unfairly targeting us hence why we hate it, so if asked for an alternative to FFP, what would/should Manchester City Football Club suggest that is fair, feasible & workable?

I believe we should have a fair alternative prepared & ready as a suggestion to fix the mess that football's become.
While I understand your sentiment and it might even be a rhetorical question I don’t think it’s for City to suggest an alternative to the current FFP. Perhaps an independent regulator would be in a good position to advise.
 
If someone asked Neville where the Salford City commercial revenue ranked in League 2 against more established clubs I’d love to see how he can explain why without contradicting himself.

Commercial revenue is a result of 1) brand awareness 2) immediate visibility and 3) potential growth of both.

1) Theres not a football fan globally that is aware of united but not aware of city. EQUAL
2) City are more immediately visible than united because they have better players, play more important games and win more. CITY
3) City are growing faster than United, reaching an increasing number of people for the first time and CFG is important to that. CITY

Then you get into the unfair reasons. 4) Business is all about who you know and taking advantage of those relationships for mutual benefit and 5) Not everyone is equal at selling their own brand.

4) City is a tiny part of a massive investment strategy. Our owner and chairman are some of the most well connected people globally. They have more weight in a boardroom than a glazer does. No one outside the US has a clue or cares who he is.
Why were salford sponsored by sky sports in their early years. Why is Wrexham sponsored by TikTok. Because their owners knew people and got good business for their clubs. City is no different. CITY
5) Our Chairman is the CEO of an investment company managing $284bn in assets globally. Ed woowar who was CEO at united 2013-2021 was an accountant and investment banker that hadnt worked outside United since 2005. Who of those is more likely to have better skills or experience. CITY

There are so many logical reasons our commercial revenue is higher.
GM and Ford have sold over 100M cars between them in the last 10 years whilst Tesla has only sold 2.5M in its history. How can Tesla have a market value of over 10 times both GM and Ford as they clearly have ‘more fans’??
 
One thing that strikes me as potentially weird.
If the PL charges mirror exactly the UEFA charges in some items, there is a danger that the PL will find us guilty of not obeying UEFA rules when UEFA themselves, having accepted CAS verdict, say we did not transgress.
 
It's all great & well & completely understandable that we view FFP as unfairly targeting us hence why we hate it, so if asked for an alternative to FFP, what would/should Manchester City Football Club suggest that is fair, feasible & workable?

I believe we should have a fair alternative prepared & ready as a suggestion to fix the mess that football's become.
The History Boys don't want fair and reasonable, they want to be at the top of the pile forever. Something like fixed and equal spending, with owner investment only being investment, rather than debt, in facilities and academies, a salary cap, and merging the premier league with the rest of the football league would be fine with me tbqh. But all 20 clubs would vote against it and England would lose its competitive edge over the rest of Europe.
 
If someone asked Neville where the Salford City commercial revenue ranked in League 2 against more established clubs I’d love to see how he can explain why without contradicting himself.

Commercial revenue is a result of 1) brand awareness 2) immediate visibility and 3) potential growth of both.

1) Theres not a football fan globally that is aware of united but not aware of city. EQUAL
2) City are more immediately visible than united because they have better players, play more important games and win more. CITY
3) City are growing faster than United, reaching an increasing number of people for the first time and CFG is important to that. CITY

Then you get into the unfair reasons. 4) Business is all about who you know and taking advantage of those relationships for mutual benefit and 5) Not everyone is equal at selling their own brand.

4) City is a tiny part of a massive investment strategy. Our owner and chairman are some of the most well connected people globally. They have more weight in a boardroom than a glazer does. No one outside the US has a clue or cares who he is.
Why were salford sponsored by sky sports in their early years. Why is Wrexham sponsored by TikTok. Because their owners knew people and got good business for their clubs. City is no different. CITY
5) Our Chairman is the CEO of an investment company managing $284bn in assets globally. Ed woowar who was CEO at united 2013-2021 was an accountant and investment banker that hadnt worked outside United since 2005. Who of those is more likely to have better skills or experience. CITY

There are so many logical reasons our commercial revenue is higher.
Great post but misses the obvious that our trophy haul over the last decade gets us an increasing amount of those fickle glory hunting pennies that the red shirts rely on so much. I've not always been a fan of some of the recent branding/commercial efforts, but they clearly work.
 

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