PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't think City have already been offered that plea bargain?

We have accused them of grand scale phishing, which is why we continue to assert the narrative "clear and obvious"

We brokered a pinch with Platini and Uefa, because we didn't want to harm the business at that time.

These Premier League accusations/charges threaten the very existence of the Club and are so much more serious, possibly threaten jail time for some individuals.

We have spent four years playing legal footsie when all we had to do was take another pinch?

The Premier League wanted to keep this all in-house and yet we preferred to have our day before an independent panel.

That should tell us this isn't a zero sum game, the Club want to clear our name once and for all.

I have to trust you don't gamble a £4bn asset on the premise we bet it all on black.
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Ric said:
Literally nothing has changed, as far as I’m aware. The club remain confident they’ll be cleared of the most serious charges, so that’ll do for me. Some people are convinced it’ll be a stitch-up, but I’d like to believe the panel will be impartial. Little point in stressing about hypotheticals at this stage, especially as this is still likely to run for some time.
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Exactly !!! Nothing has changed except every week we get stuff posted on here like ‘we have a secret VAR recording’ or ‘95% is off the table’.

What do people expect City to say ? Of course we are going to announce publicly and via chosen outlets that we are very confident. We are hardly going to say we are bang to rights and completely fucked.

The Premier League pushed ahead with charges cause they took advice that there is a very serious case to be heard. Their credibility is on the line.

There is a huge risk with this to City no matter how strong our evidence is.

People should be careful not to get carried away. Everybody was giddy about a secret VAR recording a couple of weeks ago - never to be heard of again.

There are some fantastic legal experts on this thread dissecting the charges and potential risks - they are the people to listen to.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Isn't tax evasion a criminal offence?
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That depends if HMRC go to the courts.

HMRC will be looking for voluntary disclosure if that’s not achieved they will almost certainly through investigation try and negotiate a settlement. Yes it’s possible that criminal proceedings can be a route but unlikely in respect of this type of issue
 
paska said:
The entire system was accessed, so that wouldn’t add up.
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You're confusing two separate incidents which may explain some of your posts ;)

They accessed the Scout7(?) database through someones log in details. Rui Pinto hacked our email servers, most probably by someone not paying attention and clicking on a link they shouldn't have.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't think City have already been offered that plea bargain?

We have accused them of grand scale phishing, which is why we continue to assert the narrative "clear and obvious"

We brokered a pinch with Platini and Uefa, because we didn't want to harm the business at that time.

These Premier League accusations/charges threaten the very existence of the Club and are so much more serious, possibly threaten jail time for some individuals.

We have spent four years playing legal footsie when all we had to do was take another pinch?

The Premier League wanted to keep this all in-house and yet we preferred to have our day before an independent panel.

That should tell us this isn't a zero sum game, the Club want to clear our name once and for all.

I have to trust you don't gamble a £4bn asset on the premise we bet it all on black.
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I very very much doubt that any sort of plea bargaining has taken place that’s just not how it works.

Had City in effect made a voluntary disclosure saying something like ” We have uncovered all these issues . Sorry “ then it would or could have been dealt with behind closed doors but that’s not what has happened.The PL as far as I can see have been completely open about an investigation taking place the court ruling was more about the reason for and outcome of arbitration which they and City wanted to keep out of the public domain

I think you are being over dramatic when you talk about jail time simply because despite from a PL rule book compliance standpoint I can’t see that any of the charges are suggesting that City have broken any Laws.
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Exactly !!! Nothing has changed except every week we get stuff posted on here like ‘we have a secret VAR recording’ or ‘95% is off the table’.

What do people expect City to say ? Of course we are going to announce publicly and via chosen outlets that we are very confident. We are hardly going to say we are bang to rights and completely fucked.

The Premier League pushed ahead with charges cause they took advice that there is a very serious case to be heard. Their credibility is on the line.

There is a huge risk with this to City no matter how strong our evidence is.

People should be careful not to get carried away. Everybody was giddy about a secret VAR recording a couple of weeks ago - never to be heard of again.

There are some fantastic legal experts on this thread dissecting the charges and potential risks - they are the people to listen to.
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Fantastic legal experts, who don't have the case files. So can only speculatile the possible outcome.
Like the Premier league, the club has been working on this for 4 years.
It does seem that anyone who posts on here, with good links to club, you don't value their opinion.
 
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