PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Oh well get the bus card out and do some of the grounds I've not been to ;-)
Up and at then Blues lets keep the faith.
Pissed off the Pickering know nowts, no knowledge as to why we got ffp and crying because pleaded guilty ffs. The Leeds fans haven't a fucking clue so hey ho :-)
 
eyalluvitt said:
We are a good story, the bogeymen, the one team you can abuse and disrespect without any comeback. The little kid curled up in a ball in the school playground whilst everyone gives him a shoeing. Juventus and Barca still get massive respect as their many indiscretions are ignored. Murdering 39 fans and getting every club in the country banned from European competition is as bad as it gets, not the nuances of accounting
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I'm convinced, as the hate and bile ramps up over the coming months, that an innocent Blue will end up hospitalised or worse, as a result.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've had some dickhead in my face at aways giving it the cheat shit, looking for a reaction.

The media will be culpable WHEN, not if, it happens. The same media who cry on twatter because someone has called them a nasty name.

A mate of mine was up in court last week for shouting "victim" outside the away end after dipper game at our place. Flattened by 3 of GMP's finest for daring to utter such a "hateful" word.

Who's gonna be there when someone gets twatted for simply being a cheating Blue? No fucker. Open season to attack Blues, prompted by a media narrative that perpetuates the hate.

Cunts.
 
Thought Stefan was brilliant on Talksport, and hats off to him for giving an objective view, as he appears far too professional to see this through tinted glasses.

Embarrassing of Jordan to constantly reaffirm his experience of being the fucking milk monitor or whatever his career successes actually ended up being; and I actually thought Stefan was too clever for him, hence Simon agreeing with him towards the end.

Good to hear someone discuss the subject, who actually knows what he's talking about.

I really enjoyed the bit at the end where he said that the starting point would be, that everyone will almost agree that this is almost impossible to be proven.
 
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projectriver said:
Thanks all for the comments. I feel it is not credible (especially as I have said it before), to dance around what happens if everything is proven. It is the key part of why I don't believe they will ultimately prove the allegations. And nobody can be in doubt as to the seriousness now post Everton if we are found to have breached these rules on a wholesale basis for a decade. I know it is not a good soundbite and yes this is a little naive but it is difficult to tread that line.
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I thought you got the balance spot on. If you'd come across as a City apologist, Jordan would've been all over it. He was all bluster and had no comeback when faced with a factual and authorative guest.

Congratulations on a job well done.
 
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Bluesince1979 said:
It absolutely wasnt harder to win when forest won the EC , have a look at the games played and the amount of games played to reach a final.

The knock out stage of the champs league is infinitely harder to get through.

Have a look at villas run to the final! Even easier
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You needed to be top of a 42 game division 1 to qualify which was possibly the hardest part.
 
The thing I don't get in any of this is. For the PL to have a successful case and punish us without any legal challenge back from us, they need to prove that we are legally guilty of fraud, which is a crime. The only way they can truly find us guilty of that is for it to go to a legal court. As this isn't a legal court, fraud cannot be proven. Hence the whole set of proceedings is a complete farce.
 
Blue.Roys.Son said:
I listen to it live and although Stephan was very good I do believe he needed to choose his words better, especially knowing how that station would twist everything.

When explaining the sheer scale of what would be a major fraud case, he said the PL would struggle to prove it. I believe he should have stressed more that its unbelievable that such a giant fraud could be possible without a whistle-blower or easy evidence being found after 6 years of looking.

For me it gave Jordan the ongoing chance to say, we are guilty but the PL just weren't clever enough to prove it.

Just my take.
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I don’t agree with that at all. After correctly recording he was a City fan then he did the correct thing in talking about facts and processes

If he was trying to embellish it in the way you suggest, he would have come across as bitter City fan.

He did an excellent interview and wasn’t flustered or emotional in his delivery and understanding of what has happened.
 
GeorgeR said:
Apologies if already posted, the 442 website has a decent write-up of the Talksport chat

www.fourfourtwo.com

Manchester City to be found NOT guilty of 115 charges against them, according to football finance expert

Manchester City are almost certain not to be found guilty of the FFP allegations surrounding the club, according to one expert
www.fourfourtwo.com www.fourfourtwo.com
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chris85mcfc said:
Somebody thatsobjective is how it left his mouth

Quite clearly he says that's objective, but the way it came out it could be heard as being subjective purely because of the 's' at the end of thats!
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Have just listened and hats off to Stefan. I thought he was articulate, showed credibility and clearly tried to give as objective view as he could. trouble is he is dealing with morons and in Jordan's case a nasty moron with a clear agenda. the fact that he talked about relegation was quite clever because he then went on to show what the PL needed to prove which looks increasingly unlikely that ghey can.
I don't know why some fans are apparently a bit critical - suppose it's the fashion in these days to be contrary but we should all be applauding him.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
It absolutely wasnt harder to win when forest won the EC , have a look at the games played and the amount of games played to reach a final.

The knock out stage of the champs league is infinitely harder to get through.

Have a look at villas run to the final! Even easier
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Absolutely this. The hardest part was qualifying, because you had to win the league - well we did that anyway, so that's that covered anyway.

After that, can we compare Dortmund, Seville, Copenhagen, Leipzig, Bayern, Madrid and Inter with... Oster, Arges Pitesti, Dynamo Berlin, Ajax and Hamburg, for example...
 
mancboy said:
Yeah but back in those days it was lose and ur done, these days u could concievably lose 3 games in the group stages and another 3 in the knockouts and still make the final, i mean we didnt lose a game so wed have been fine in both eras ;)
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Nope, back then it was knockout, but over two legs still, so plenty of chances to lose and go through still.
 
If there is no proof of wrong doing the tribunal should quickly realise this process is a waste of time and bring the proceedings to a relatively speedy end. No evidence. Nothing to talk about. My understanding is the PL need to bring the evidence to the table. Not City. If the PL are relying on the Der Spiegel emails City's lawyers will be able defend these robustly. The only issue is whether the PL have new evidence that we are not aware.
 
KS55 said:
One essential difference is that UEFA’s investigatory chamber was corrupt.
1. CAS in our interlocutory case (CAS1) were scathing about Leterme and his handling of the case. We only lost that case because CAS ruled that they did not have jurisdiction unless the case was complete.
2. The chamber leaked confidential data to The New York Times and we know who that was.
3. Leterme was until just before the case a paid director of Bayern‘s sustainability board.
4. The contemporaneous case against PSG, also chaired by Leterme, was so corrupt in letting PSG off that the Adjudicatory chamber of UEFA actually appealed against themselves to CAS.
5. I believe UEFA subsequently dispensed with Leterme’s services.
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Wow, didn’t know any of that, thanks mate.

So is the PL case essentially a fresh stab at us around the old charges? Basically the PL aren’t happy with the way UEFA conducted the inquiry and want to handle it themselves.
 
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