PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Chappie said:
The panel into the independent review of Mancheter City 115 chargeses has been announced.
Stephen Howson,chairperson.
Andrew Tate,Finance director.
Mark Goldbridge,Media Mogul.
The hearing will begin on June 17th 2024 starting at 1030am, bst.
The hearing is expected to take 30 minutes and the outcome will be released at 9:30 on 15th June 2024, Live on Sky Sports News.
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paulchapo said:
Nothing really. I'm not sure why it's generated so much excitement. CAS must have looked at that deal and the premier league panel surely would.
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You are right. It is clear that CAS spent a lot of time scrutinising the Etihad contracts and they heard evidence from executives at Etihad and City. They had a lot more information than UEFA got and CAS concluded: "There is no doubt that Etihad fully complied wth its payment obligations to MCFC." That is a very strong statement in a legal document with no caveats attached. The proposed public flotation of Etihad seems like a red herriing.
 
Chappie said:
The panel into the independent review of Mancheter City 115 chargeses has been announced.
Stephen Howson,chairperson.
Andrew Tate,Finance director.
Mark Goldbridge,Media Mogul.
The hearing will begin on June 17th 2024 starting at 1030am, bst.
The hearing is expected to take 30 minutes and the outcome will be released as soon as possible.
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Ziegler will leak result 2weeks before. meeting
 
paulchapo said:
Nothing really. I'm not sure why it's generated so much excitement. CAS must have looked at that deal and the premier league panel surely would.
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Im sure cas and the pl panel would but to open the books to the sec or whatever audit team the exchange that they have decided to float on suggests a level of confidence that everything is above board although we would have opened them up to silverlake capital who have assets of 101 billion under their control so obviously we are confident anyway.

Quite simply the pl are in unchartered waters and are way out of their depth, masters is like rimmer in red dwarf in that he has managed to find himself running the whole ship when he is nothing more than a chicken soup vending machine repairman and like rimmer hes making an arse of it.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
but the PL has a responsibility to ensure that it does not favour one group's sectional interests over those of another. It is a governing body and should "govern" in the interests of all clubs, the game and the fans.
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Just to interject here but the Premier League is made up of 20 clubs. Theres no outside ‘governing body’ at present. Its 20 clubs who vote on things and anything with 14 votes or a 2/3rds majority gets passed.

Masters is there to market the PL and see the commercial rights. He doesn’t come up with ideas, any club (ie board member) can raise an issue and have it voted on.
 
SWP's back said:
Just to interject here but the Premier League is made up of 20 clubs. Theres no outside ‘governing body’ at present. Its 20 clubs who vote on things and anything with 14 votes or a 2/3rds majority gets passed.

Masters is there to market the PL and see the commercial rights. He doesn’t come up with ideas, any club (ie board member) can raise an issue and have it voted on.
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Masters and the board members have key influence and he has close relationships with certain Directors. You can be sure that the ongoing legal strategy against City is not being put to a vote of all 20 clubs at every twist and turn. Meanwhile someone from the PL (or in the loop with the legal case) is still passing information to sections of the media. The evidence suggests that the PL is effectively being run by a small clique. That's what members of the Commons Select Committee appear to believe and some of the other PL clubs seem to have finally woken up to what is going on. Masters is the CEO not the marketing executive, that was his old job.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Masters and the board members have key influence and he has close relationships with certain Directors. You can be sure that the ongoing legal strategy against City is not being put to a vote of all 20 clubs at every twist and turn. Meanwhile someone from the PL (or in the loop with the legal case) is still passing information to sections of the media. The evidence suggests that the PL is effectively being run by a small clique. That's what members of the Commons Select Committee appear to believe and some of the other PL clubs seem to have finally woken up to what is going on. Masters is the CEO not the marketing executive, that was his old job.
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That 'Arsenal letter headed demand' from the 4 clubs from a while back and posted earlier in this thread, tells you everything you need to know about the collusion that is taking place in this apparent democracy of a PL.

As in most 'democracies', there is a small group that sits at the top table and pretty much dictates how the 'democracy' works.

Also, as in most 'democracies', the plebs (read that as 'fans' in this case) are kept at bay by propaganda fed to, or created by, a partisan press, which results in most uneducated people swallowing the lies and treating it as the truth.

All of this will NEVER stop until either the old guard get their way, or so much time passes that the younger generations of non-old guard club fans begin to outnumber their adversaries in positions of relative power.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Masters and the board members have key influence and he has close relationships with certain Directors. You can be sure that the ongoing legal strategy against City is not being put to a vote of all 20 clubs at every twist and turn. Meanwhile someone from the PL (or in the loop with the legal case) is still passing information to sections of the media. The evidence suggests that the PL is effectively being run by a small clique. That's what members of the Commons Select Committee appear to believe and some of the other PL clubs seem to have finally woken up to what is going on. Masters is the CEO not the marketing executive, that was his old job.
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Not forgetting that Masters had additional interveiews with representatives of the rags and dippers before being confirmed as chief executive of the Premier League. He clearly made all the right noises for the shithouses and who can doubt that a witch hunt against City was one of the demands they made as a condition of approving him for the job?
 
laserblue said:
Not forgetting that Masters had additional interveiews with representatives of the rags and dippers before being confirmed as chief executive of the Premier League. He clearly made all the right noises for the shithouses and who can doubt that a witch hunt against City was one of the demands they made as a condition of approving him for the job?
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If this is the case, Ziegler must know this. Has he reported on it? Has he fuck.
I don’t know what our defence strategy is but I would be inclined to ask a few pointed questions of Masters and others to give the impression to the panel that it is a pile on v City. If we can show this, we would have ready recourse to a legal appeal to the courts, not just another PL panel.
Of course the KC will only ask if he already knows the answer.
Everton, Forest, Leicester could spill the beans to us.
 
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Masters must know he's totally exposed, the scrutiny is going to fall full square on his appointment, actions, discussions with the usual protagonists/protectionists. He's not a nimble footed enough operator like a Scudamore was, or Bernstein. Totally out of his depth as any mere puppet stooge would be. Must be having sleepless nights at the shit show he's presiding over, albeit as a patsy.
The obligatory knighthood has long gone.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
Masters must know he's totally exposed, the scrutiny is going to fall full square on his appointment, actions, discussions with the usual protagonists/protectionists. He's not a nimble footed enough operator like a Scudamore was, or Bernstein. Totally out of his depth as any mere puppet stooge would be. Must be having sleepless nights at the shit show he's presiding over, albeit as a patsy.
The obligatory knighthood has long gone.
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A big pay off no matter what the outcome sadly though.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
That 'Arsenal letter headed demand' from the 4 clubs from a while back and posted earlier in this thread, tells you everything you need to know about the collusion that is taking place in this apparent democracy of a PL.

As in most 'democracies', there is a small group that sits at the top table and pretty much dictates how the 'democracy' works.

Also, as in most 'democracies', the plebs (read that as 'fans' in this case) are kept at bay by propaganda fed to, or created by, a partisan press, which results in most uneducated people swallowing the lies and treating it as the truth.

All of this will NEVER stop until either the old guard get their way, or so much time passes that the younger generations of non-old guard club fans begin to outnumber their adversaries in positions of relative power.
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In fact the 2020 letter was signed by nine clubs (including Arsenal). The others were: Spurs, LFC, MUFC, Chelsea, Newcastle, Leicester, Wolves, and Burnley. It went direct to CAS in March 2020 before they had even started their main deliberations. According to the CAS documents the clubs "opposed any stay of execution" for City on the UEFA sanctions. So those clubs wanted us to be banned from europe and heavily fined even before the appeal had been heard. It is hard to imagine anything more unethical than a group of commercial rivals trying to intervene in a supposedly impartial legal process. I wonder if Richard Masters was copied in.
 
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bobbyowenquiff said:
Masters and the board members have key influence and he has close relationships with certain Directors. You can be sure that the ongoing legal strategy against City is not being put to a vote of all 20 clubs at every twist and turn. Meanwhile someone from the PL (or in the loop with the legal case) is still passing information to sections of the media. The evidence suggests that the PL is effectively being run by a small clique. That's what members of the Commons Select Committee appear to believe and some of the other PL clubs seem to have finally woken up to what is going on. Masters is the CEO not the marketing executive, that was his old job.
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The “board members” number 20 in total. Each club is supposedly an equal board member.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
In fact the Arsenal letter was signed by nine clubs (including Arsenal). The others were: Spurs, LFC, MUFC, Chelsea, Newcastle, Leicester, and Burnley. It went direct to CAS in March 2020 before they had even started their main deliberations. According to the CAS documents the clubs "opposed any stay of execution" for City on the UEFA sanctions. So those clubs wanted us to be banned from europe and heavily fined even before the appeal had been heard. It is hard to imagine anything more unethical than a group of commercial rivals trying to intervene in a supposedly impartial legal process. I wonder if Richard Masters was copied in.
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I think he's referring to the letter on Arsenal headed notepaper from 2012
 
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