PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Pingu the Penguin]

Nah, not a chance it was only 10 minutes mate. There were rumours doing the rounds in the days leading up to the announcement that it had gone our way. I seem to recall that Pep was rather smug in one particular post-match interview. Ian Cheeseman tweeted a few days before that he'd heard it was positive news. And someone who runs one of the biggest supporters club branches was gobbing off that we'd won the case to all and sundry down the pub a couple of nights before it was announced.

I’ve worked on Court of Appeal and Supreme Court decisions. You get the decision c.24 hrs before promulgation to review for factual accuracy. You are clearly warned you are in contempt of court if you leak it or talk about it’s content before judgement is handed down

 

[M18CTID]

I’ve worked on Court of Appeal and Supreme Court decisions. You get the decision c.24 hrs before promulgation to review for factual accuracy. You are clearly warned you are in contempt of court if you leak it or talk about it’s content before judgement is handed down

I'll bow to your superior knowledge on that but there was a lot of talk at the time on here that there were clues that we'd been given more advance notice of the decision than 24 hours.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Possibly touted to TV & they’ve all said “not a fucking chance.”

That Youtube programme would never have been sanctioned because it would breach all Offcom guidelines. The proven false comments by Tebas alone were libellous. It was one sided and unbalanced. Even the use of dark images with people in traditional Arab dress (complete with deep music) had racist overtones. There was not a single comment in defence of City. It was a combination of lies and innuendo..like a Putin propaganda video. I actually think it has strengthened City's case with the PL. The reason it was made by a firm based in the British Virgin Islands was to make it difficult for anyone to sue them.

 

[Stewadda#]

That Youtube programme would never have been sanctioned because it would breach all Offcom guidelines. The proven false comments by Tebas alone were libellous. It was one sided and unbalanced. Even the use of dark images with people in traditional Arab dress (complete with deep music) had racist overtones. There was not a single comment in defence of City. It was a combination of lies and innuendo..like a Putin propaganda video. I actually think it has strengthened City's case with the PL. The reason it was made by a firm based in the British Virgin Islands was to make it difficult for anyone to sue them.

I am on it with 2 mates dancing I think at the Brighton screening and they have made us look like right cunts cos we are dancing to different music to what they are playing over it. That's my excuse anyway.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

For the sake of completeness. This was UEFA's response to City's submission on Etisalat:

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Not much there, to be honest. Just restating facts and interpreting them in a way to suit. Should need more than that, I imagine, to counter actual financial records and testimony from multiple club, owner and sponsor executives.

Can't seen the problem with this if Etislat reimbursed the payments. If the money went from Etislat to Adug first and then on to City I also can't see a problem as long as City were upfront about it. Do Etislat sponsor any other CFG clubs like Etihad do? If that was the case why wouldn't money go to ADUG to be apportioned later. But City admitted all this and no action was taken. Also remember the Etislat payments in 2012,2013 happened during a period when we made huge losses, failed FFP rules, and settled with UEFA for £20m. What difference did it make and are the PL trying to punish us twice for the same period? None of this is illegal and it seems the PL are just trying to twist their own rules to suit the narrative.

 

[citizen_maine]

Obviously all this is based on transfemarkt guestimates of values, but here's how much they think City have increased the value of players:

Manchester City - Market value at debut

Wie veränderten sich die Marktwerte aller Kaderspieler seit ihrem Debüt bei dem Verein Man City? Diese Statistik zeigt die Entwicklung.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

They reckon our squad value has increased by €350m compared to their value when they made their debuts.

It also shows the utter foolishness of quoting this as a statistic, because in most cases their "value" bears very little resemblance to the prices we actually paid.

What it clearly shows, is that Nick Harris's use of the word Intelligence for his work should be an issue under the Trade Descriptions Act :)

I'd say it was done deliberately though, as the people it was aimed at will read it as 'cost', and spout that going forward. Anybody picking up on the word value won't be bothered to check what the actual cost was though, so the only figure out there that will be quoted will be the higher figure. And it will be quoted as cost.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Let’s face it, it’s no coincidence that 99% of everyone that thinks we are innocent is a City fan.

Its just that we know we are right ;-)

I often wonder what I would think if it was another club. I would like to think I’d be objective but I’m not convinced as footy is so tribal.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I'll bow to your superior knowledge on that but there was a lot of talk at the time on here that there were clues that we'd been given more advance notice of the decision than 24 hours.

I think you get one working day. I have been involved in some big civil court cases and once got advance notice on a Friday for a decision being announced on the Monday. So we had lots of documents to check for factual errors etc. I remember it well because it ruined my weekend.

 

[hammocity]

I have offered to go on TS. Jim White has not taken up the offer yet

Can you not get Mrs PR to call in and say she’s Tits Out Jackie then grab the phone and give it to White and Jordan? I’d pay to listen to that.

 

[wolviedinho]

Let’s face it, it’s no coincidence that 99% of everyone that thinks we are innocent is a City fan.

Its just that we know we are right ;-)

I often wonder what I would think if it was another club. I would like to think I’d be objective but I’m not convinced as footy is so tribal.

I would be taking the piss out of said supporters but I would also acknowledge and respect the decision once made. We didn’t get that with CAS and we won’t get it with the Premier case.

What has happened instead is that the media have weaponised certain fanbases against us using emotive tribalism as you suggested. Throw in social media and it’s a cesspit.