PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Citizen of Legoland]

Martin Lipton has said the ruling could be as early as next year (I assume he means calendar year), not sure whether he has been briefed or not.

Stefan is quoted in the article.

It’s all bonkers. The PL have the greatest football competition in the world right now and they are in danger of setting its member clubs on each other.

They’re either irresponsible or they are doing it on purpose. Beginning of the end of the PL if you ask me, enabling a new competition ran by the red shirt consortium with huge restrictions on owner investment (once they’ve sorted themselves out of course).

Choose your sides, everyone, this will be bumpy.

 

[Dribble]

How do you know this? They must have something to build their case on. What bothers me after the current media speculation is that the PL can’t afford the embarrassment of us being cleared & in this stinking corrupt world of football, it’s the ones in charge that rule. Money talks & we’re not that sort of underhand club that passes brown envelopes, like for example, Chelski & I fear our niceness will be our downfall.

Mate, charges are usually brought when all the evidence has been gathered & ready to be presented.

The mere fact it's estimated the PL are still investigating us after 5 years, & a hearing will take between 2-4 years to come to fruition, shows this whole FFP charade against City is built on bullshit, & designed to prove there's no need for an independent regulator.

If it was City asking for a 2-4 year delay to construct a defence, then I'd be seriously worried. )(

 

[Gordyola]

Good post
It’s amazing that they have even tried to throw all this shite at us again.
The thing that is most shocking to me and proves the whole sport is bent is that UEFA found us guilty and banned us when it turned out (according to CAS):
1 - they had no supporting evidence
2 - they ignored their own rules (time barring)

This just proves that they decide you are guilty and then ignore any due process to get to the end goal.

Exactly and the shit sticks
Remember that PSG got away with far worse due to an "admin error" when the chief investigator. the corrupt former Belgium PM. Yves Leterme forgot to charge them yet, he was leaking and making up things about City. City made their peace with UEFA and the relationship is now a good one, Leterme was subsequently removed from office something he is very familiar with. The issue with the PL is that, as an entity it is 20 clubs with the red shirts having the most influence, remember who interviewed the current CE? The whole constitution of the PL is open to influence and manipulation It's going to be interesting to say the least. If i was one of the owners I would have to be sure that my own house was in order, to cross a billionaire especially one with the influence and resources of HH is very foolhardy.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Martin Lipton has said the ruling could be as early as next year (I assume he means calendar year), not sure whether he has been briefed or not.

Stefan is quoted in the article.

Lipton knows a much as you and me , he's writing shite to attract clicks its the standard industry practice , print bullshit + make money.

 

[mancboy]

Everton produced 28,000 documents for ONE charge and it took the Premier league six months to come to the conclusion they were culpable , and this was after Everton admitted their FFP issues and were simply trying to plea for a lenient punishment
We have 115 charges , deny every one of them and have the best legal team on the planet , absolutely no chance this is coming to a conclusion in the next five years , unless the Premier league come to a decision stating "beyond reasonable doubt" or simllar to appease the 'istree clubs , then i believe we will be able to challenge their decision making process outside the Premier league's remit , i.e. the law courts.
Imagine if they did relegate us and we won in the law courts the amount of compensation they would have to pay , it would be billions , they might be tough with Everton & Chelsea who have both held their hands up and admitted irregularities ,but will they take the risk of taking on the Abu Dhabi Royal Family and calling them liars , can the UK government stand by and lose billions of UK investment over a football issue , there is a far bigger picture here than football.

If we are convicted and its a big if, they are suggesting fraud and after that it becomes a legal matter, if true people will go to jail we arent talking about points deductions and if not we are talking slander on a massive scale from the premier league, i thoroughly believe that the pl have dug themselves into a hole that they are desperately trying to climb out of and they have no clue how to do so.

 

[Saddleworth2]

The everton ruling couldnt have less to do with our case and i dont know how many times it has been said on here or the fact that the red media are trying to link the case.

Everton failed ffp, it wasnt a question, the numbers were there and they openly admitted that to be the case, there was mitigating circumstances but the numbers are the numbers and that's why they got done.

What we are being accused of is fraudulent accounting, the numbers arent there and the pl have to produce solid evidence that this was the case, as of yet all they have done is produce speculative and spurious evidence which combined with the frothing red media and its appeal to idiot fans has built it into something that it clearly isnt. If they had compelling evidence to suggest fraudulent accounting this would be a criminal not a civil case and the fact that they have yet to produce anything of the sort will tell you that this is nothing more than a fishing expedition designed by the pl to suggest they can keep their own house in order so the independent regulators dont take their toys away because when and if that happens their will be alot of people with alot of skeletons absolutely terrified.

to be fair, we don't know exactly what they have. We strongly suspect that they will struggle to prove anything. My point was more about the seeming unfairness of the Everton penalty and that our expectation that an independent commission will treat us fairly may be flawed.

 

[Asa's left peg]

Lipton knows a much as you and me , he's writing shite to attract clicks its the standard industry practice , print bullshit + make money.

Thought he'd died or retired!

 

[Dribble]

Everton produced 28,000 documents for ONE charge and it took the Premier league six months to come to the conclusion they were culpable , and this was after Everton admitted their FFP issues and were simply trying to plea for a lenient punishment
We have 115 charges , deny every one of them and have the best legal team on the planet , absolutely no chance this is coming to a conclusion in the next five years , unless the Premier league come to a decision stating "beyond reasonable doubt" or simllar to appease the 'istree clubs , then i believe we will be able to challenge their decision making process outside the Premier league's remit , i.e. the law courts.
Imagine if they did relegate us and we won in the law courts the amount of compensation they would have to pay , it would be billions , they might be tough with Everton & Chelsea who have both held their hands up and admitted irregularities ,but will they take the risk of taking on the Abu Dhabi Royal Family and calling them liars , can the UK government stand by and lose billions of UK investment over a football issue , there is a far bigger picture here than football.

The elephant in the room for me is the PL issuing 115 charges, but requiring 2-4 years to bring forth a hearing so we can defend ourselves.

This is putting the cart before the horse, which just doesn't happen in real life law.

You do your investigation, bring your charges & give the defendant a chance to construct their defence & respond.

It seems City are primed & ready to rumble, but the accusers aren't. If this were a court of law, the case would be thrown out as being frivilous & incomplete.

 

[give it to gordon]

It's all about to implode, the pl is eating itself just as the American owners wanted.
The fans of these American clubs are to think to see what's happening.

Bloody hell I even got called a cheat when filling my car up at the petrol station last night. All I was doing was queuing up to pay ! In my City jacket.

I hope it doesnt get to the stage were I feel unsafe wearing my City gear. The way the press/media are stirring it up, it could to that.

 

[mancboy]

to be fair, we don't know exactly what they have. We strongly suspect that they will struggle to prove anything. My point was more about the seeming unfairness of the Everton penalty and that our expectation that an independent commission will treat us fairly may be flawed.

As you can see with the everton ruling, the independent commission is tied to the evidence and have no choice but to give reasonings for their recommendations, if the evidence is not their, then they have nothing to go at, as i have said if the independent commission finds us guilty, we are talking criminal charges, if the pl had that kind of evidence why not send it directly to the cps, the fact is they dont.