PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I am thinking the question is, if the period starts in 2018 and the club is charged before 2024, then everything is open to judgment. But does that mean they can go back to the club's 1962 accounts, for example, if the press find something to investigate?

Not at all thinking about a club up the road and what they got up to when Ferguson was there ....

Wasn't 1962 when the rags were done for payments made under the table to players? And fined £5 000 ( when they'd just bought Dennis Law for £115 000?) I don't think that was a "minor", "technical" breach of the rules!

 

[remember arthur mann]

One morning we will find out all the charges have been dropped, quietly.
That will it, no fan-fare no yellow ticker, nothing.
All of these 35000+ posts will be in vain.
C'est tout!

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

The Telegraph have an 'exclusive' that Forest have hired Nick De Marco to fight any attempt by the PL to charge them with breaking P&S limits. They are sailing close to the wind but seemingly they are confident that they will pass.

Similar situation to Chelsea as it's going to be close for them too.

 

[Brendan110_0]

The Telegraph have an 'exclusive' that Forest have hired Nick De Marco to fight any attempt by the PL to charge them with breaking P&S limits. They are sailing close to the wind but seemingly they are confident that they will pass.

Similar situation to Chelsea as it's going to be close for them too.

Maybe they've picked City in the PL power struggle, Everton did and got fucked for 10 points (way OTT).

 

[mackenzie]

Wasn't 1962 when the rags were done for payments made under the table to players? And fined £5 000 ( when they'd just bought Dennis Law for £115 000?) I don't think that was a "minor", "technical" breach of the rules!

Is that true? Would love to know that it is ;-)

 

[foggy1974]

From the 'toontastic' transfer forum...

"Hopefully Man City's FFP is settled out of court sooner rather than later and allows us to blow a massive hole in the FFP rules"

They also seem reasonably keen on trying to sign Kalvin...

They can still sign Phillips on loan

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Is that true? Would love to know that it is ;-)

I can't guarantee it was 1962 but four clubs were done for it: Peterborough and (I think) Northampton Town were demoted from the old Second Division to the fourth, which was a draconian punishment, and the FA (or FL) announced that any clubs found to be in breach of the same regulation would be treated in the same way. Then it came to light that United and Derby County may have actually breached the same regulations in the same way. The investigation showed this to be the case but the punishments were, for some reason, not on the same scale. I add that Matt Busby had apparently agreed a deal with at least one player which involved illegal payments right at the start of his managerial career in 1945. This was never actually proven but a Blackburn Rovers official went to meet the player at the railway station, having already agreed a deal with him, but was ignored by the player, who walked off with Busby and later signed for the rags.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Recently united were fined due to ffp. Can anyone here tell me how that compares to Evertons fine and crime? Are they vastly different and fair?

 

[halfcenturyup]

So, limitation :)

This is the situation I think:

Breach of contract has a six year limitation period. The club was charged in 2023, so anything before 2017 would normally be time-barred.

However, if essential facts were deliberately concealed from the PL, then the 6 year period starts from the date of discovery, which was 2018. We were charged in 2023, so if the panel considers there was deliberate concealment, everything is "on the table".

My question then is how to determine deliberate concealment?

Presumably they would have to come to the conclusion first that there was an actual breach for all breaches prior to 2017 (you can't deliberately hide something if you didn't do it)? So they will have to come to a conclusion on all the pre-2017 charges first before they can determine which, if any, are time-barred? As opposed to CAS, where they could consider time-barring first without considering the merits.

No wonder it will take four years ....

Does that make any sense?

 

[antspider]

If the premier league are looking for something that’s not there, could take forever looking for “it” ;)