halfcenturyup
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Probably along the lines of those who are failing FFP and those that aren't? So four or five clubs will want the change and the others will just be laughing :)
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gordondaviesmoustache
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You think clubs will vote along the lines of self-interest? Interesting…Probably along the lines of those who are failing FFP and those that aren't? So four or five clubs will want the change and the others will just be laughing :)
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The main point is that sport is merely a means to a much much more important end for the Saudis. They could spend however much they lose on their football league on Marketing firms promoting their kingdom every year, & get way less publicity for their money than having LIV Golf, their loss making football league, Boxing world title fights, the World Cup, F1 races etc.
To show they're transitioning from being a strict Sharia Law country, into a more secular state, the Pope conducted mass at a Catholic church there last year.
Women are now allowed to work in almost all sectors of their economy that men do, & from 2019 women were also allowed to drive.
Since 2019, they've been holding HUGE 750,000 capacity music festivals, where Saudi women are allowed to attend without a hijab, niqab or chaperone, & are allowed to mix freely with anyone there, including men they're not related to.
Smoking & alcohol are still banned in the country, but in NEOM & the Red Sea Islands off the coast, they're looking to follow Dubai's lead & allow both, but strict public decency laws will still apply.
These reforms & policies are being massively accelerated because of their 2032 World Cup bid where they've promised to relax their strict tobacco & alcohol laws, regardless of whether they've been relaxed nationally in law by then.
The 81 men they publicly beheaded in 2022, were accused of a mixture of crimes including murder, rape, smuggling etc. However Amnesty International believe 65% were chopped for very vague reasons which amounted to a warning from their defacto leader Mohammed Bin Salman (MBS), letting it be known to their CONservative Muslim clerics that if they openly dissent against his sweeping social, economic & religious reforms, that he's zero issue with lining up all the old men with beards, & chopping their blocks off.
Fiscally, between 2015-2022 the Saudis were barely making a profit on oil sales because the price had dropped so low on the international markets. All that changed when Mad Vlad decided to invade Ukraine, causing oil prices to spike.
MBS is desperate to make hay whilst the sun is shining, so created Project 2030 as his cut off point to have these social/religious/economic reforms & huge infrastructure projects up & running.
He's vowed nothing will stand in Saudi Arabia's way in reforming their country, before the world starts ditching fossil fuels in favour of renewables, which would leave them floating on a vat of Black gold, with few takers.
As I said, buying Newcastle, pumping billions into their football league & applying to host World Cup 2032 is all part of a far larger strategy to transform the kingdom. Losing the odd £Billion here or there is all factored in to a far larger national economic strategy.
They do like their executions though don’t they.
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halfcenturyup
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You think clubs will vote along the lines of self-interest? Interesting…
:) I know what you are getting at, but it's a principle thing really. isn't it? Why should clubs who have operated within FFP, allow clubs who haven't to change the rules to suit them? I would tell them to fuck off, as well.
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They do like their executions though don’t they.
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They like many other things, as well. It's a fascinating culture.
gordondaviesmoustache
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That’s even more than the US!They do like their executions though don’t they.
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Sheriff Fatman
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Once is enough. Not speaking from experience.I think they overspent on tea bags last year. Rule 69 has a maximum tea bagging clause.
gordondaviesmoustache
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You can’t be if you say once is enough!Once is enough. Not speaking from experience.
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Yup, most executions are in line with Sharia law, but a majority are now the old men with beards who're against economic, social & religious reforms.They do like their executions though don’t they.
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These religious fundamentalists would rather Saudi Arabia return to being a desert, where the main mode of transport was by camel or donkey, if it meant keeping strict Sharia Law in place.
MBS is around 38 years old, & his views reflect those of the younger generation who want change & modernisation.
MBS is doing a balancing act. He knows the young are the future, but the elderly clerics still control the religious morality ideals in their mosques.
The old men with beards are struggling to radicalise the younger Saudi generation who're behind MBS, which has enraged Iran, hence the hatred & grief between the two Arab superpowers.
However, mess with MBS's reforms & future plans for Saudi at your personal peril as journalist Kashoggi found out to his cost. The West were reluctant to take action for MBS grinding him up into dog meat, because sanctioning Saudi Arabia would destabilise the global oil markets, so in turn the global economy.
The result? When they involved themselves in global sports as a way of introducing change, they're accused of sportswashing.
About 3 years ago, Abu Dhabi quietly legalised alcohol in certain hotels, bars & restaurants in their new resorts.
The UAE were the first to recognise the need to modernise in order to attract inward Western investment as a way of diverging their oil based economy.
What you've seen unfolding in Qatar & Saudi is them playing catch up before their oil revenues dry up. They won't allow the old men with beards to affect the long-term futures of their countries, albeit they'll modernise in a way which suits their culture.
And 20 ish in USA. Not sure who is winning?They do like their executions though don’t they.
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