PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Prestwich_Blue]

Correct, but Masters has never confirmed the generally accepted Autumn 2024 date to my knowledge which was first reported by the Fail IIRC.

This is why I said the major City announcement claimed by the Telegraph & supposedly due this week may or may not be more newspaper speculation, as Masters hasn't confirmed this either.

We'll find out soon enough.

Has Masters confirmed whether he's confirmed anything?

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Do we know what information will be made public when a decision is made?

If they don’t have to publish their findings publicly, the burden of proof can be at whatever level they deem enough to find us guilty.

I don't know what details have to be given, but the whole business is opaque to say the least. Presumably City will have to be provided with the grounds on which the judgement is made and if City find that the commission considers the evidence furnishes conclusive proof (beyond all reasonable doubt) or sufficient to convince that City are probably guilty then City would immediately appeal and the court would hear the appeal and accept it because the commission and the three officials composing it were not established by a competent authority and were not competent or authorised to deal with such matters. As Ric says, "a case the PL can't win"?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I don't know what details have to be given, but the whole business is opaque to say the least. Presumably City will have to be provided with the grounds on which the judgement is made and if City find that the commission considers the evidence furnishes conclusive proof (beyond all reasonable doubt) or sufficient to convince that City are probably guilty then City would immediately appeal and the court would hear the appeal and accept it because the commission and the three officials composing it were not established by a competent authority and were not competent or authorised to deal with such matters. As Ric says, "a case the PL can't win"?

Thanks for the reply. I’m optimistic that it’ll all blow over, but there’s always that little nag in the back of your mind that asks What if.

I guess it’s part of the cynical society we now live in where all news is questioned and facts only believed if they fit the agenda people want to believe.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I think the "We can keep our own house in order" horse has bolted. IREF was in the King's Speech & is set to be enacted in this Parliament. Let's hope that's sooner rather than later.

The scope isn't defined yet. The PL will still be trying to ringfence themselves.

 

[Gordyola]

Yea the Everton outrage at this is bizarre. I know is a different federation but rags were 47 million over ffp and only got a 300k fine !. I would want to know why the pl punishment is alot more stronger than UEFA

Because unlike the PL UEFA have a punishment strategy in place. Masters told the commission what the Everton punishment should be, which he based on the EFL one IIRC is 6 points plus 2 for ever £20M over. The IC have wide ranging powers to decide punishment it was just a coincidence that they arrived at the same figure as Masters

 

[wolviedinho]

I want to know how 3 people on a tribunal can ascertain guilt based on no evidence?

They would need to get to a point where no other reasonable explanation can be ascertained.

No evidence means no case. Looks like they have taken their ball home in a huff.

 

[KS55]

I don't know what details have to be given, but the whole business is opaque to say the least. Presumably City will have to be provided with the grounds on which the judgement is made and if City find that the commission considers the evidence furnishes conclusive proof (beyond all reasonable doubt) or sufficient to convince that City are probably guilty then City would immediately appeal and the court would hear the appeal and accept it because the commission and the three officials composing it were not established by a competent authority and were not competent or authorised to deal with such matters. As Ric says, "a case the PL can't win"?

Not “beyond all reasonable doubt” but on the balance of probabilities.

 

[Gordyola]

Has Masters confirmed whether he's confirmed anything?

One thing he hasnt had to confirm because we all know it RMIAFC

 

[spinney]

Incidently, all the PL clubs could be kicked out of UEFA and FIFA competitions if this comes to pass by the political interference in football membership clauses.
That will be another one to watch out for. I'm sure Spanish, German and Italian clubs will be keen to pull the trigger.

Correct almost nobody has spotted this , I know it's FIFA rule to stop banana Republics scamming their FAs pretty sad if our our country is now classed in the same bracket

 

[CC1]

if the PL panel find us guilty & we’re eventually relegated, I hope all our rivals realise that any trophy they win will have * against it because the best team in the world were not competing :) :)