PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Bentheblue said:
They need to keep their job. It’s likely corruption exists everywhere in UK, particularly the media.
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I don’t think it’s corruption, but “groupthink” is ruthlessly enforced in the UK - you have to follow the herd and conform or you can be finished overnight. Anyone who is an “outlier” is shut out - City have never been accepted since the takeover and the ownership, senior executives like Khaldoon, Soriano etc are foreigners - outsiders and unwelcome intruders. It’s very sad but true. Garry Cook may have helped gain acceptance but that was not to be. US owners can read and navigate “the room”, due to cultural ties, in a way that our club cannot. Our unparalleled success made us number one target.
 
Rory Bluelow said:
I don’t think it’s corruption, but “groupthink” is ruthlessly enforced in the UK - you have to follow the herd and conform or you can be finished overnight. Anyone who is an “outlier” is shut out - City have never been accepted since the takeover and the ownership, senior executives like Khaldoon, Soriano etc are foreigners - outsiders and unwelcome intruders. It’s very sad but true. Garry Cook may have helped gain acceptance but that was not to be. US owners can read and navigate “the room”, due to cultural ties, in a way that our club cannot. Our unparalleled success made us number one target.
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If “groupthink” leads to corrupt behaviour then it’s corruption, let’s not dilute it.
 
Rory Bluelow said:
I don’t think it’s corruption, but “groupthink” is ruthlessly enforced in the UK - you have to follow the herd and conform or you can be finished overnight. Anyone who is an “outlier” is shut out - City have never been accepted since the takeover and the ownership, senior executives like Khaldoon, Soriano etc are foreigners - outsiders and unwelcome intruders. It’s very sad but true. Garry Cook may have helped gain acceptance but that was not to be. US owners can read and navigate “the room”, due to cultural ties, in a way that our club cannot. Our unparalleled success made us number one target.
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Gary Cook wouldve tipped the apple cart over and set fire to the rain rather than accept the organised and premeditated shit thats come the clubs way.

He'd have put Mario in charge of media & PR ,with Nigel de Jong head of security.

Cookie wouldve been great fun and the ticket prices would've been sorted yonks ago. !!
 
Blue Theatre said:
Is one problem City have, that no one seems clear on the punishment for each charge ? They seem open-ended.
If it were clear that (say) 20 of the charges just carried minor fines, it might pay City to concede them & give the Premier League a way out ?

The other big problem City have, is how to live with the Premier League & all the other clubs post-judgement. Even (in fact, especially) if we are found innocent on every charge, there's going to be a lot of bad feeling between us & (almost) everyone else.
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Why would City concede anything if they know they are innocent? Furthermore why would City want to give them a way out?
 
gocity said:
Why would City concede anything if they know they are innocent? Furthermore why would City want to give them a way out?
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Because in the end it's going to come down to the opinion of 3 folks on a panel based on what is set forth before them.
Even if we appeal, as with any court, the right decision is strived for but never guaranteed.
You can be innocent and appear to be guilty or vice versa.
There are not many avenues for appeal. Just one within the PL procedures.
 
FanchesterCity said:
Because in the end it's going to come down to the opinion of 3 folks on a panel based on what is set forth before them.
Even if we appeal, as with any court, the right decision is strived for but never guaranteed.
You can be innocent and appear to be guilty or vice versa.
There are not many avenues for appeal. Just one within the PL procedures.
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Two, although increasingly unlikely and restricted at each stage.

But really they won't be needed. The PL won't be proving the most serious charges even if the club has done what is alleged.
 
FanchesterCity said:
Because in the end it's going to come down to the opinion of 3 folks on a panel based on what is set forth before them.
Even if we appeal, as with any court, the right decision is strived for but never guaranteed.
You can be innocent and appear to be guilty or vice versa.
There are not many avenues for appeal. Just one within the PL procedures.
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It's so not going to be down to opinion. It has to be backed up with fact.
 
I dont have 100% trust in this panel. especially headed or selected by an Arsenal fan. they re all paid by the PL arent they?
its like they have bunch of expensive lawyers they pay, we have lawyers we pay, and there is a panel to decide on ll this they pay too.
luckily the Leicester case was there where they said to PL to fuckoff albeit it was more of a clever loophole wasnt it.

dont want to say the panel is rigged if they find us guilty but great if they find us innocent, but that is the truth. :)

the case on Chelsea's self admitted crimes was said to be dealt with earlier than our case but not even timelines are shared or even PL charges announced. have a feeling that will be brushed under the carpet.

how the fuck Uefa managed to hand out punishment more than a year ago on that. even if it was just very minor 10m euros fee to be paid. had it been us maybe they start full investigation with expulsion etc and let it go to CAS again. with oother clubs they seem much less serious.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
It's so not going to be down to opinion. It has to be backed up with fact.
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And the panel members will be erring on the side of cogency so much in such a high profile and serious case it will take some seriously incriminating evidence to persuade them that the club's third party witness statements and accounting evidence aren't convincing. I can't really see any way they have such incriminating evidence on the most serious charges.

All imho, of course.
 
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