PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[CC1]

Veterinary comments weren't taken out of context from what I saw. Has anyone got the original interview because from what I have read he's laid into City.

I'm aware of how the media twist truth but this seems to be not one of them.

as far as I can see, he was just defending UEFA‘s decision to charge us. He had to say he felt UEFA were right. Not once did he say CAS were wrong in their findings.
Telegraph wanted something to twist

 

[Centurions]

Correct.
Look at the difference between how LFC backed their fans in Paris, and how our club have washed its hand on how we were treated in Istanbul.
Complete disconnect between the club and fans.

You're not going to like this but the two cases aren't really comparable are they?

 

[pottsy]

Totally agreed.

I have to say that I'm not happy about the 1894 Group post on social media and all they have done is to whip up negative comments from our own fans to the club, which is exactly the sort of thing that the fans of other clubs want to see. Not for the first time, they've scored a spectacular own goal by not thinking through their action to consequence.

The club are in a protracted legal battle with the PL that is going to an 'independent' hearing. We have to be careful not to be accused of trying to prejudice the case. Let others sling mud and let's play things by the book.

What Ceferin has said is hardly news. UEFA found us guilty. CAS overturned the verdict. UEFA were hardly ever going to just throw their hands up and say, "oh alright, then, we admit, it was a kangaroo court, with a verdict based upon a whim". Like any prosecution case in a court that failed to get a conviction, they are always going to believe that they were right and there has been a miscarriage of justice.

I think we can all work out the drill here and how the press work. There's a huge storm about us at the moment that has purely come from the fact that the PL are about to charge Everton (again) and Forest. The Telegraph has decided to cash in on this by seeking out Ceferin for an interview and obtaining the quote they wanted, which he can freely give because UEFA are not involved in this particular case. However, if the PL are behind that, then it is they who are prejudicing the case.

The accusation from other fans is that we will get off because our legal team will be better than the PL's. The mantra from many of our fans is that the quality of our legal team will ensure that justice prevails. In our favour. It is that very same legal team that will be advising Manchester City not to comment upon the mud slinging. So, do we trust them or not?

Let's face it. All our enemies think we are guilty anyway, so what will a statement change? We are hot news in the FFPR department as we were 12 months ago, but the latest storm will soon blow away until the next time. This will crescendo again every couple of months from now until the verdict depending on other cases, so we can't expect City to keep on issuing statements each time. The mud will be slung anyway, so I feel the best course of action is just to maintain a dignified silence and believe that adhering to the process is the best course of action.

All that banning dissenters from the club will do is further add ammunition to those who say that we have something to hide. Corrupt regimes ban dissenters. And if we do so, that's the image that we will portray of ourselves. Even more so than the image we already have. It would play right into our enemies' hands.

The club knows what it is doing. Believe in them.

Oh do keep up they’ve not been called 1894 Group for about 6 years

Spectacular own goal 99% of Blues agree with their post so take your agenda elsewhere mate.

 

[Phil1]

From reading this thread I’m grateful I’m not in the U.K. because if I was out and about and some fucker I didn’t know approached me and called me a cheating **** I wouldn’t be responding with friendly smile and ask for an explanation.
I’ve never been one for wearing any football related stuff tbf so nobody would have reason to but those who do like to wear their shirts with pride shouldn’t have to worry about walking down the street and have some bell end give them grief.
It won’t end well this, the death by a thousand cuts we seem to be suffering at the hands of the press will see somebody hurt before long.

 

[flapjack]

from what i have read and maybe i have no read it all, all he is basically saying is that they believed in the case but they accept the courts decision, im not really sure what else he is supposed to say, he cant exactly say we knew we had nothing from the beginning but we wasted everyones time because madrid and barca were really really scared, it would be absolutely career suicide.

no he said that in court (speaking from experience as a lawyer) there are cases which you think you will lose that you win, and cases that you think you will win (the one against city) that you end up losing, not because the parties were innocent or that the verdict was correct but because the lawyers had a bad day in court...he is implying that if the case was heard again it could well have gone the other way (and should have done in his mind) because after all 'they were right'

 

[CC1]

Neither UEFA (perhaps surprisingly) nor CAS would be publishing any evidence from either side due to confidentiality issues. The hacked emails were in the public domain.

I had a quick look at this Telegraph piece and all I could see was that Ceferin stated that UEFA thought we were guilty which given the 2 year ban is pretty much self evident? As usual they'd been clever in how they've presented it to generate clicks and possible subscriptions and as usual, far too many have put their foot in the trap. Honestly, some of you must walk around slavering with rage. Personally speaking I couldn't give a shit what they write.

Exactl. He had to say that he felt UEFA were right. But he doesn’t say that CAS were wrong!!
media need these sort of interviews & quotes so they can misrepresent them

Thus the club must not be tempted into entering into a media war. We’re in the middle of a process & can’t say anything

 

[wolviedinho]

from what i have read and maybe i have no read it all, all he is basically saying is that they believed in the case but they accept the courts decision, im not really sure what else he is supposed to say, he cant exactly say we knew we had nothing from the beginning but we wasted everyones time because madrid and barca were really really scared, it would be absolutely career suicide.

He could and should have kept his mouth shut and supported the current holders of the cup. He knew what he was doing and the impact it would have.

Why should it be ok to bash the club? Just because we should be used to it and accept it.

Investigate if you want but once that is done accept the verdict with abit of respect. You lost because the case was bullshit. If Mansour wants to spend money as custodian of mcfc, that’s his right to do so. Making up rules to stop that tells you all you need to know about uefa and the premier. It was never a fair fight.

 

[Centurions]

Veterinary comments weren't taken out of context from what I saw. Has anyone got the original interview because from what I have read he's laid into City.

I'm aware of how the media twist truth but this seems to be not one of them.

He was answering questions on various topics and I think he got a bit blindsided. Let's not forget that English isn't his first language.

 

[mancboy]

Foreign/International fans love City's football and our star name players.

I undertake regular International travel and we are the 'big news'

It's radically different in England.

When we were regularly getting beaten by an excellent Arse Burton team,I and many other City fans publicly acknowledged their quality including applauding them at Maine Rd DURING & AFTER a 0- 5 thumping.

We are far superior to that Arse team nut we rarely if ever receive the plaudits that they did !!

Cheats...money bags City...oil money...buying success...no istree...

Day after dripping day,TV,radio,papers,magazines,again,again,again,hour after hour,day after day,week after fecking year.

Drip,drip fecking drip.

Like water dripping onto stone, it makes a lasting impression so much so that's its now fashionable to dislike City,it's a national football obsession !!

Its a vocal minority, as i have said before in the grand scheme of things , the readership of the daily fail and the torygraph is miniscule, even the reach of skysports isnt that great but the inecessant whining of these clubs fans and friendly press just makes them feel better about their teams, its sad all round really because even if the FA or the IC find us guilty you can guarantee alot of skeletons will come racing to the surface the moment that happens, is the last pathetic death throes of the old order, sad old yanks drip feeding crap to the press and suing everyone because their tiny little minds cant comprehend that the world has passed them by.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Essentially yes, & there's nothing illegal about that.

However UEFA/G14 started it. If they'd allowed us to develop our business as we stated was our intention, there'd be no need for us to look for legal ways around their bent & unfair FFP/PSR.

What a mess they've made of football in their pursuit of protecting the G14 & Spuds from being challenged on the pitch. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠⊙⁠_⁠ʖ⁠⊙⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Yes - delivering our audited accounts in November one season - fairly early in the process - allowed UEFA to change the rules using some elements of these audited accounts as an attack vector.
Needless to say our accounts we're subsequently submitted during the last possible week till we were nearly in profit.
This meant we couldn't be attacked on an element of our accounts without a seasons grace.
Proof that we were, indeed, the target.