PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I married a plastic scouser from the Wirral. Fortunately she hates football.
So did I except she is a Liverpool fan.

However she says she is a Wiralian rather than a scouser. She also doesn’t like Liverpool FC, says the club needs to get over itself and the ”it’s never our fault” attitude. Her second favourite team is City (even before me) as she went to Uni in Manchester.

She tried to switch teams but couldn’t do it which I think is fair enough. So she doesn’t like the club she supports.

She celebrated 93.20 and winning the CL as much as I did…which was a lot.
 
My experience is they are fixated on City. Much worse than United fans. I have had some really bizarre encounters with them in public places. They can’t help themselves.

I had a discussion with one of them in town last summer. Apparently we must be guilty of some of the charges as we can't possibly be not guilty of 115 charges. I asked which of the charges in particular are we bang to rights on.

I'm still waiting for an answer
 
Does anyone know how much info the Premier League were able to glean from UEFA about our defensive arguments at CAS?

I'd suspect that will be a big factor in whether we had "the drop" on the league in this case.
 
Genuine question (probably a daft one)........despite the rumours that a decision is imminent, is it even possible to have written up the full findings yet? If you take into account the number of working days since the tribunal ended, and you take out the Xmas period, they would need to be writing 15 pages per day to have it ready now. Is it possible to write that many pages per day, including all the legal complexities and references?
There's no such thing as a 'daft' question SSB

Just a silly answer

Which I'm about to illustrate....... they're not having to use a quill and ink pot to write their findings. ;-)

Joking aside; I would imagine they'll have a template for each of the legal aspects including all the relevant subsections.

The points of law are already written. They will need to reference and attach the relevant aspects to each of their findings but that's pretty straightforward for any competent barrister.

Disclaimer: I'm not in the legal profession so don't hold me to that. Otherwise I may have to appeal through the appropriate channels.
 
So did I except she is a Liverpool fan.

However she says she is a Wiralian rather than a scouser. She also doesn’t like Liverpool FC, says the club needs to get over itself and the ”it’s never our fault” attitude. Her second favourite team is City (even before me) as she went to Uni in Manchester.

She tried to switch teams but couldn’t do it which I think is fair enough. So she doesn’t like the club she supports.

She celebrated 93.20 and winning the CL as much as I did…which was a lot.
Wiralian??
Sounds like fun.
Is that anything like spinning?
 
That para refers to this from FTT

50. Paragraph 4.1 of the Terms and Conditions for the 2013 Contract (substantially replicated as paragraph 4.1(a) of the Terms and Conditions for the 2015 Contract) which provides that, "the Services will be rendered to the best of the Company's and the Personnel's abilities and all directions and requests given by BSkyB or its nominees will be complied with." We do not accept Mr Firth's submission that this is to be construed as meaning that Sky is unable to require Mr Thompson to express opinions which he did not believe or otherwise to control what he says or to restrict his opinions. This paragraph is unambiguous and does not make any reference to Mr Thompson's opinions. As such, there is no room for Mr Firth's construction.

Then on Control the FTT concluded (I quoted (5) earlier): View attachment 150333

I've not read in detail but it is only theoretical that Sky could direct Thompson or anyone so HMRC succeeded on that point notwithstanding the reality. Para 51 says "Similarly, given the emphasis on reasonableness elsewhere in the Contract and as part of the factual matrix as a whole, we find that it is so obvious to go without saying that the parties did not intend that Sky be entitled to make or give unreasonable directions and requests. It might well be, therefore, that in practice Mr Thompson would not be obliged to express opinions which he did not believe or otherwise to control what he says or to restrict his opinions. However, this is a feature of such a direction or request being unreasonable and in breach of the implied term rather than being the proper construction of paragraph 4.1 (or paragraph 4.1(a)) itself."


By the way, here is a good example of the chaos that will ensue after the decision is published from people claiming it says one thing and others claiming it says something different - and nobody will know for sure. It is possible to have 2 valid interpretations.
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Genuine question (probably a daft one)........despite the rumours that a decision is imminent, is it even possible to have written up the full findings yet? If you take into account the number of working days since the tribunal ended, and you take out the Xmas period, they would need to be writing 15 pages per day to have it ready now. Is it possible to write that many pages per day, including all the legal complexities and references?
Not a silly question. In the High Court, we wouldn't be seeing a judgment this year in all likelihood. But we all assume the IC have been incentivised to deliver quicker than that.
 
This is a good point. So you will have a number of interpretations within the spectrum of reasonableness and then a whole load outside too. Chaos.

Will you be writing up your reaction to the result prior to keep in the spirit of sports reporting…..
 
I was in Turkey last year and in a bar a dipper started chatting to me..he mentioned the 115 charges and said "do you think you will get away with it?"
I replied there's fuck all to get away with as I'm sure we are innocent..he said no smoke without fire..
He wasn't happy when I said I would rather be guilty of the charges than guilty of murdering 39 innocent people.. **** soon fucked off.
We definitely live rent free in their tiny little minds.
I always go straight to Hillsborough if one of them starts. “But we was innocent” they say immediately.
They then get some or all of.

But the police thought you were guilty, the press thought you were guilty, the politicians thought you were guilty, the football authorities thought you were guilty and the fans of every other club in the country, especially coming after Heysel, thought you were guilty.

In fact, one of your biggest supporting journalists wrote about the feral atmosphere in Belgium being replicated in Sheffield.

And yet, after all that, you were cleared.

You usually then get an indecipherable high pitched whining noise and lots of displaced phlegm as they tell me how that is different…..
 
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I actual wonder if City are not a vehicle for social change back home the UAE has western enclaves has embraced western culture but has kept tradition. I think it looks like it will keep progressing. Being top dog in the premier league with its diverse teams rainbow lace anti racism and successful women’s teams in one of the most progressive nations in the world even if we taken a backwards step in recent year

I imagine the young and the western educated leaders are not so traditional but then again they where often educated in America and look what large awaits of them think of anything so called woke

Pure speculation not much knowledge of UAE and suspect main motive to owning city is financial
I've put this on here before but it bears repeating.
At the time of the takeover I read an article by a Canadian journalist that was about the Formula 1 races being held in Dubai? (I know nothing about Formula 1 but it was the first race to be held in the Middle East) and Etihad had begun sponsoring Ferrari, I think Sheikh Mansour bought shares in Ferrari too.
Anyway, City had a brief mention when they were discussing the sporting and cultural institutions that Middle Eastern, and in particular UAE countries, were getting involved with and the article was about why these countries were branching out in to these fields.
The consensus of the article was that one of the main driving factors was to help bring their society into a more Western capitalist mindset rather than one based on religion and the hierarchies of the nomadic tribes that are native to the area.
It spoke about how the ruling families were all western educated at places like Oxford, Cambridge and the US Ivy League universities but the religious Imam's still held a lot of sway over the people and on how the countries are run. They figured that bringing sporting events to the country and getting involved in sports other than horse racing abroad would help introduce the general population of the Middle East to worldview's and cultures outside of their normal experiences which would take some of the control away from some of the stricter Imams. This would then allow them to have more control of the country and remove some of the more oppressive religious laws. This would in turn help them to make their countries more open to becoming tourist destinations allowing them to diversify their economies.
This was written well before the concept of sportswashing was invented and at the time I thought it made perfect sense, definitely more sense than the sportswashing accusations. We can definitely tell that people in Abu Dhabi are seeing more of UK culture through City by the meltdowns we see online from Middle Eastern people when Pride and the like is mentioned, although with the rise of the religious far-right here, and in particular the US, maybe the religious intolerance of the Middle East is spreading in the west rather than western tolerance being spread to the Middle East, but I digress.
Having said all that, unlike seemingly every scouser under the sun, I have very, very little knowledge of the social, economic, political or religious setup of the Middle East so who knows.
 
My experience is they are fixated on City. Much worse than United fans. I have had some really bizarre encounters with them in public places. They can’t help themselves.
They are strangest fuckers you could ever meet. I have recently moved from Greater Manchester to West Yorkshire and its absolutely teaming with Liverpool fans. They're more vocal about City than any rags I ever came across back home.
 

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