PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Metal Biker]

Kyle Walkers just pulled his hamstring playing for England ffs!

Charges now reduced to 114 to compensate

 

[manimanc]

Kyle Walkers just pulled his hamstring playing for England ffs!

I wouldn't say pulled. More of a strain.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

City have absolutely nothing to gain by issuing any interim statements- in fact, quite the opposite.

We made our statement at the outset. Nothing more need be said until a judgment has been handed down. Then we’ll speak.

If a defendant believes he / she has a rock-solid case, then an opening, “hard”rebuttal is all that is required.

Simply reiterating that rebuttal just smacks of being desperate to be believed.

If Pannick thought it were a good idea, we’d have heard something.

If nothing had materially changed then I’d be inclined to agree, but the sands are plainly shifting. It therefore wouldn’t be a reiteration of the initial rebuttal; it would need to be more nuanced than that to have the desired effect.

I think the club does have something to gain by taking advantage of the current chaos.

It would also make us better placed to seize the narrative assuming these charges are dismissed, as we will have foreshadowed that outcome during, not at the outset of the process.

Comparing our case with that of a defendant in a trial is incongruous and simplistic. There are wider considerations than the mere determination of these charges.

 

[117 M34]

No, 100% no That's my whole point. He's used his own money to finance the club, so who is the victim here?

Liverpool

 

[WRicko]

Cool.

Not going to make me want to stop supporting the club though. I don't care how the Premier League might interpret the "severity of our crimes", in my view it's an absolute bullshit notion. An investor who cannot use their own legal capital to invest in their own business because other failing businesses aren't in the same financially secure position, is not a 'crime' that I take to be one i'd be disgusted by. Do you honestly think that Shiekh Mansour and his team intentionally committed fraud?

Theft, spending despite being in debt, spending whilst using the club as collateral, bribery, blackmail and threats would be something i'd be ashamed of our owner for. But he ain't done that, has he?

I don’t believe we did anything wrong but that does not change the consequences if we are found to have nor what is alleged to have happened. You keep saying it’s all about spending but it’s not

 

[johnnytapia]

If nothing had materially changed then I’d be inclined to agree, but the sands are plainly shifting. It therefore wouldn’t be a reiteration of the initial rebuttal; it would need to be more nuanced than that to have the desired effect.

I think the club does have something to gain by taking advantage of the current chaos.

It would also make us better placed to seize the narrative assuming these charges are dismissed, as we will have foreshadowed that outcome during, not at the outset of the process.

Comparing our case with that of a defendant in a trial is incongruous and simplistic. There are wider considerations than the mere determination of these charges.

Are we not a defendant in a trial?

 

[Indaparkside]

Kyle Walkers just pulled his hamstring playing for England ffs!

What the fucks that got to do with the charges

 

[Metal Biker]

I don’t believe we did anything wrong but that does not change the consequences if we are found to have nor what is alleged to have happened. You keep saying it’s all about spending but it’s not

That's not what i'm saying though. You have completely missed the point i'm making.

My point is that our detractors are expecting me to say that if City are found guilty of this "fraud" charge, I should be ashamed of the club, and I simply won't be. That's the end of the matter, I won't be responding again if you cannot grasp that.

 

[wolviedinho]

Going back to CAS. One of the 3 Judges found City guilty. Was there a reason or reasons published for that decision?

City didn’t send him a birthday cake.

Francois Toure’s brother I think.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Are we not a defendant in a trial?

Strictly speaking, no, as it won’t be a trial, and I expect we’ll be named as the respondent not the defendant, but such technicalities weren’t my point.

My point, is that if the club is certain of our innocence then there are wider considerations than a binary outcome for it to weigh into the balance, and as such they have much to gain from an effectively worded statement at this juncture.