He heard two versions like Alan Brazil and Bob Monkhouse.Poor Mister Edd. I change my mind with the evidence, yeah right.
He heard two versions like Alan Brazil and Bob Monkhouse.Poor Mister Edd. I change my mind with the evidence, yeah right.
Funnily this point about the rules at the time came up on Twitter today
The rule before 21/22 was very different
Such as?BOP.
Basically it’s more likely the allegation happened than it didn’t.
I would also suggest that even if BOP is satisfied, there may well be significant mitigation as to why a breach happened.
19 seconds longer than I thought.I doubt if the panel consider the public reaction for more than 20 seconds.
@Prestwich_Blue says it is civil. If follow-up criminal charges were issued after a judgement in the PL favour then I think it would be beyond reasonable doubt. Is that right Prestwich?Given the severity of the charges, and the potential penalties,I would say beyond reasonable doubt.
The charges are effectively saying we have committed fraud along with the auditors and several CEOs of global companies.
I remember watching this when I was 14 (I think) and it has always stuck with me as a repudiation of anyone who believes anything absolutely. The whole episode is very emotional, but this bit I have never forgotten:
"This is the concentration camp and crematorium at Auschwitz. This is where people were turned into numbers. Into this pond were flushed the ashes of some four million people. And that was not done by gas. It was done by arrogance. It was done by dogma. It was done by ignorance. When people believe that they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality, this is how they behave."
And he followed up with the Cromwell quote: "I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ. Think it possible you may be mistaken."
Not equating the holocaust with what the club and its fans are going through, obviously (he was comparing what happened in the concentration camps to the notion that science and the scientific process dehumanises people and turns them into numbers). In our case, though, the press shoulders most of the blame for perpetuating the arrogance, dogma and ignorance that is prevalent around the "115" "charges" and it is a damning indictment of their lack of morality and humanity.
What a thick ****. Next…
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Re: 115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch
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- Stripped of all trophies won during the period.
- expelled from the PL
- relegated to league 2
- unable to be promoted to the PL for 10 years regardless of their results.
- a 10 year ban on any incoming signings
- clubs to be financially reimbursed for financial losses.
- supporters of all clubs to receive a backdated award of money, to go out and celebrate the trophies they were cheated out of. £500 per trophy.
- no games shown live on TV. And all games to be 12.30 kick offs.
- no entry into the FA cup or League cup.
- to return the stadium they were 'gifted'.
That should do for starters.
115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch
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I understood it that way too. I can’t imagine the Police or HMRC sitting back whilst The Premier League get their shit together for the rule breach hearing before getting involved themselves. If they had any evidence of SERIOUS wrongdoing then surely there’d be pictures of uniformed officers or officials seizing documents or computers.@Prestwich_Blue says it is civil. If follow-up criminal charges were issued after a judgement in the PL favour then I think it would be beyond reasonable doubt. Is that right Prestwich?
Not a chance. Our media department bends over backwards for these bastards.
I know a solicitor that worked for City and when I asked why journalists and organisations weren't being sued or banned he said it's because our media department are friends with them all.
Not to keep the enemy close either.
Think they have a genuine belief that one day we might be praised the way the red shirts are.