PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

CC1 said:
In this case we are being charged with breaking PL rules - rules we agreed to adhere to when we “joined” what is a private organisation. Nothing to do with “crime” and they have purposely avoided the use of the word “fraud”

We don’t have to “prove” our innocence - they have to prove we did break their rules. Our KC will be using the “irrefutable evidence” to demonstrate that we haven’t broken their rules.

If we lose - any appeal is to another independent panel.
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From what I've read the belief from us is that we haven't broken any rules. We just apparently haven't complied with proving that we haven't broken them therefore by default it is assumed that we have.

A great case in point on this is the European Super League, membership is totally against the rules of UEFA and the involved clubs were supposedly going to be sanctioned.

However, how many clubs have been sanctioned or kicked out of the Champions League? Not a single one and yet the winner of the Champions League last year is the club who's still most involved in it!

Clearly rules can exist and they can charge people however enforcing them is a completely different matter.
 
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Superace said:
Both Etihad and Emirates airlines make a profit.
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They do now but that is only based upon what is released. They only started to release their accounts in recent years in response to US pressure on anti-competition grounds, none of them are audited properly.
 
Norbiton said:
I’m not sure from that where he’s identified any rules being broken
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No, that’s kind of my point (although not sure I said it well) is that it’s the start point.

As I say it was an interesting conversation with an intelligent person who got it.

Now we make the assumption that the blanks go in our favour (as there are blanks in this none of us know) and he goes the other way.

For me it was just the first conversation I’ve had with someone who felt we where guilty who was knowledgeable and happy to discuss openly.

I had to accept some of his points as well as he accepted some of mine.

Very good chance I won’t see him again until after the verdict and I’m sure we’ll catch up on it.

It just felt strange, not having 115 being said or paying Haaland of the books, or the usual uneducated tripe.
 
inbetween said:
From what I've read the belief from us is that we haven't broken any rules. We just apparently haven't complied with proving that we haven't broken them therefore by default it is assumed that we have.

A great case in point on this is the European Super League, membership is totally against the rules of UEFA and the involved clubs were supposedly going to be sanctioned.

However, how many clubs have been sanctioned or kicked out of the Champions League? Not a single one and yet the winner of the Champions League last year is the club who's still most involved in it!

Clearly rules can exist and they can charge people however enforcing them is a completely different matter.
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Yep. It’s all a set up to stop us - because the red tops can’t stop us on the pitch. Other European leagues must be looking on in disbelief about the damage the PL are doing to their own “product”
 
Silva2021 said:
No, that’s kind of my point (although not sure I said it well) is that it’s the start point.

As I say it was an interesting conversation with an intelligent person who got it.

Now we make the assumption that the blanks go in our favour (as there are blanks in this none of us know) and he goes the other way.

For me it was just the first conversation I’ve had with someone who felt we where guilty who was knowledgeable and happy to discuss openly.

I had to accept some of his points as well as he accepted some of mine.

Very good chance I won’t see him again until after the verdict and I’m sure we’ll catch up on it.

It just felt strange, not having 115 being said or paying Haaland of the books, or the usual uneducated tripe.
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Should have asked him what the evidence was for him to have those views.
 
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