PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

jacko74 said:
Well the Income tax laws for one... if you're very wealthy or a very high earner then there's all manner of loopholes and tax breaks you can exploit to quite legally avoid paying your full obligation (just ask Saint Marcus) but if you're just a lowly average earning PAYE employee then suck it up buttercup and pay your full due.
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But do you breach the tax rules then go “rules are shit, so I can’t be punished?”.
 
slbsn said:
If I was the PL, I'd be cross examining every witness. The Mancini matter is dead with an unchallenged witness statement. If a witness statement is unchallenged, the panel are likely to accept every word as unchallenged evidence ie fact.
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He said no one had even spoken to him in the first 4 years of an investigation before charging us. How can this be?
 
Masters is smug tonight with a carrot adorned in an utd kit ready for his ricker because City never won.
No mention of us not being beaten for 2 full yrs at home
 
Stoned Rose said:
Whether we agree with the rules or not, rules are rules.

It’d be like a shoplifter getting convicted of nicking a load of clothes from JD then saying “nah mate the rules are snide, so it doesn’t count”.

We signed up to the rules. If we didn’t agree with them we shouldn’t have done.
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The rules were only brought in to fuck us over.
 
Sofiablu said:
What if he (and others) decline to be cross examined?
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I think you’re getting it the wrong way round mate.

Each party will have submitted a number of witness statements from individual witnesses to advance their case. The opposing side will then either agree the statement because it contains nothing they want to challenge (because there is nothing controversial or it is expedient not to do so) in which case the witness will not be required to attend, but otherwise the assumption is that the witness will be tendered for cross examination, which means attending to give live evidence and being asked questions on the content of their statement, and other matters that are within their knowledge.


It’s not normally obligatory for a witness to attend in this setting (although I think there is the power to compel a witness to do so via the High Court, it is unlikely to be exercised here) and if they don’t then hearsay being permissible the witness statement is admissible as evidence but little weight will be attached to it, as the other side has not had the opportunity to challenge its contents via cross examination.

If they do attend then the other side will have the opportunity to cross examine them. If they don’t answer the question (a tediously common refrain) then the advocate (if they are any good) will simply ask it again until they get an answer, or the tribunal intervenes, and so as a consequence of their failure to answer questions that are put, their evidence will doubtless be viewed as ‘evasive’, ‘not credible’ or worse and will most likely undermine the case of the party they are giving evidence in behalf of.

So, ultimately no-one can be compelled to answer any question, but by avoiding the question, or answering it with a non-sequitur response, or responding with another question etc..all serve to undermine what is contained in their written statement, which is ultimately one of the principal aims of cross examination, although eliciting other answers for wider tactical reasons is another.

As an advocate, it’s the hardest, and usually last skill to master, but at its finest it’s the most effective weapon and what separates the great from the merely good.

And I expect Pannick will be fucking brilliant at it. It usually helps if you’re far smarter than the person you’re asking questions of, which in relation to Masters will unquestionably be the case.
 
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