Not as confident as at CAS. I was pretty certain we would win that one.
I'm about 65/35 on this one, simply because I fail to see how the reporting of it doesn't prejudice the panel, no matter how learned or esteemed it will be.
Can only take City at their word they are pretty confident we will win again, but I don't see a home run and envisage a big fine again for non cooperation and maybe a transfer ban over a couple of windows just to limit our progression over the image rights set-up.
I trust Lord Pannick to make the difference.
I don't analyse any of it but they want a piece of flesh and we will never get a fair hearing as you state. Throw enough mud and some sticks and they have thrown it all.Not as confident as at CAS. I was pretty certain we would win that one.
I'm about 65/35 on this one, simply because I fail to see how the reporting of it doesn't prejudice the panel, no matter how learned or esteemed it will be.
Can only take City at their word they are pretty confident we will win again, but I don't see a home run and envisage a big fine again for non cooperation and maybe a transfer ban over a couple of windows just to limit our progression over the image rights set-up.
I trust Lord Pannick to make the difference.
After several decades, many fans still chant:Not forever. The cheat jibes will go in a few years when we're cleared.
We used to hear that our owner will "get bored and leave." Remember that one? You don't hear that one much anymore.
They'll find something else to have a go at us about once all of this over.
Think it insinuates that for the PL to save face, we will have to accept a small fine - perhaps for a small charge, even the withholding evidence bollocks again...
...However, I sincerly hope we don't and nail the bastards ondthis one... I want nothin less than to be fully exonerated and compensated!
One or two of the charges are for not complying with UEFA rules and the only one we were actually found guilty on by CAS was for non-cooperation with UEFA, so the PL will probably fine us for not cooperating with UEFA and themselves. Can they fine us for getting fined by UEFA?I think we'll be cleared of the main financial charges, however it's likely we'll be fined for non-cooperation.
After several decades, many fans still chant:
"Same old Arsenal, always cheating"... \0/
The independent committee were a craft on course to the Uk but unfortunately got shot down over Canada.Given the 24 / 7 media smear campaign, how the f are we supposed to get a fair trial ? Oh wait, perhaps the Independent (lol) panel members are living under a rock.
To be honest, fans have already decided that we can barely attract 6000 fans to home games, so I reckon they're too wedded to that jibe to add in "Cheats" too. That privilege belongs to Arsenal...Doesn't really effect them does it?
Fans can call us cheats in the stadium, who cares. We'll just chant we're champions.
What I do look forward to is shutting up the fanzine writers/presenters at sky sports.
The premier need to fine Uefa for reputational damage to one of its clubs…One or two of the charges are for not complying with UEFA rules and the only one we were actually found guilty on by CAS was for non-cooperation with UEFA, so the PL will probably fine us for not cooperating with UEFA and themselves. Can they fine us for getting fined by UEFA?
They’d fine us for having a crap security policy (hacking), to allow another club to access our systems, if they could.One or two of the charges are for not complying with UEFA rules and the only one we were actually found guilty on by CAS was for non-cooperation with UEFA, so the PL will probably fine us for not cooperating with UEFA and themselves. Can they fine us for getting fined by UEFA?
But surely if the club are confident then it's complete exoneration they will seek not a halfway house situation or semi compromise again?Not as confident as at CAS. I was pretty certain we would win that one.
I'm about 65/35 on this one, simply because I fail to see how the reporting of it doesn't prejudice the panel, no matter how learned or esteemed it will be.
Can only take City at their word they are pretty confident we will win again, but I don't see a home run and envisage a big fine again for non cooperation and maybe a transfer ban over a couple of windows just to limit our progression over the image rights set-up.
I trust Lord Pannick to make the difference.
Transfer ban after we make sure we spend in the summer & JanuaryNope. I wrote City are confident.
My own personal opinion is that we will win but are unlikely to come out scot-free (taking medicine) whether it be in the form of a fine for non cooperation or a poss transfer ban for how we set up for Mancini or player payments.
Because we have to cooperate?I don't get why we should get a fine because we didn't cooperate, if we haven't done anything wrong.
If I were being cynical I could ask if you have been tasked with managing our expectations given the upward trajectory of optimism over the last couple of days ;-)Nope. I wrote City are confident.
My own personal opinion is that we will win but are unlikely to come out scot-free (taking medicine) whether it be in the form of a fine for non cooperation or a poss transfer ban for how we set up for Mancini or player payments.
Ok cheers for the updateMy understanding of Portugese law is not great but I have been dipping into and out of the trial in the foreign media. Pinto has pleaded not guilty but has admitted asking for payment to return hacked documents to various football agents linked to Sporting Lisbon and Benfica. His absurd defence was that he was "just testing" to see if they would pay up as part of his "whistleblowing" activities and it wasn't really extortion! He has also admitted hacking into various bank accounts (including a pension fund) and transferring money into his own Swiss account which he then repaid later after cutting some deal with the bank where he helped them to prevent further thefts. It is all very strange. He is currently awaiting the verdict which is due in April.
Like the Dippers exploring the possibility of building a new stand at a cost of £50m.Owner investment has a cap on it for FFP purposes.
The club can be given more as long as it's exempt from FFP calculations (e.g. building work), but nowhere near 100M a year (it varies from UEFA FFP and PL FFP).
The key point is that much of the Abramovich loan was for building at Stamford Bridge and the hotels - it didn't go into FFP calculations, and therefore is irrelevant from any sniping.
I thought it was established that we can’t really do that? Unless things have changed, I remember Stefan highlighting the circumstances under which we can go to the English courts and he felt it was extremely unlikely to happen. He felt like the PL-chosen panel’s decision would probably be final. But I’m not Lord Pannick, so I don’t know.I don't think we can accept any "pinch" this time. We need to stand up for ourselves we've tried playing the nice guy and now it's time to end this once and for all, if that means dragging the PL or rivals clubs through the courts for years so be it. Enough is enough.
Win against the PL and then pursue him and others like him if our lawyers recommend it.How do they get away with this!