oakiecokie
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And I bet he`d travelled on a train to Nottingham.This is the only asterisk I'd settle forView attachment 132453
And I bet he`d travelled on a train to Nottingham.This is the only asterisk I'd settle forView attachment 132453
I will take a big fuck-off asterisk on every single one of our trophies.Back to the settlement discussion, would you settle for no sporting sanction, no financial sanction, but seven asterisks?
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I never said that as well you know it.So you think nothing will happen if we are found guilty ?
You disagree with facts it’s a fact you can agree with the chairman and believe we are innocent and still think if found guilty we have big problems.
Accusations on this scale all proven mean relegation. Fraud conspiracy lying. Possible multi year points deductions being suggested
Who stays in the championship player staff sponsor wise ?
Will clubs sue us ? Apparently they cannot but Westham got sued over Tevez
Frank Mitchell huge City fan in N.ireland used to do a bit of tv presenting for UTV,has been on the radio for a number of years now every morning Monday- Friday 9.00-12.00 on U105..
It’s been a difficult week for English football. A shadow is hanging over the club I have poured my love into since 1969.
I fell for Francis Lee, Mike Summerbee and Colin Bell. My friends were George Best and Mancunian red but I was never lured by automatic success and after years of being underdogs, City now bark the loudest.
There is a special blend of satisfaction that comes with being a Manchester City fan. Having the best team in the world brings an unbridled sense of pride to those of us who feel a deep attachment to whoever is wearing sky blue with the City crest.
Over the last few years, Pep Guardiola has sculpted the perfect panel. Two, sometimes three elite superstars competing for every position. Their abilities leaving gifted gatherings elsewhere in Manchester, across in Liverpool and down in London floundering in their wake. This is perfection or as the headline writers say “Pepfection”.
It is a joy to watch. Sometimes they are flawless, often they aren’t, but on those off days they most usually excel in the end. There is a sense of confidence, desire and general workmanship alongside a wealth of natural talent that ensures these players are habitual winners.
Other great teams, especially those under the guidance of Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United, have helped to make the Premier League the benchmark for global football but nothing equals the Manchester City formulae of the last few years.
It wasn’t always like this. In the late 1990s they were in the third division. City struggled but their fans never abandoned them and that loyalty was rewarded when our oil rich owners took control. They knew Manchester City had global appeal and now the club is a who’s who of soccer stardom. The Premier League is not only better thanks to the presence of this great club but it owes a debt of gratitude to those who drive Man City in the direction of total domination.
As we know, however, this is not the case. The League has levelled charges against the club on the grounds of financial irregularity and seem prepared to continue to pick at a scab until blood is drawn. The case, which started this week, will probably have no winners but one thing is for sure — the loser will be football. There may have been accounting errors or possibly something was lost in financial translation between the UAE and the UK but Man City bosses deny any wrongdoing and as a fan I am confident this great club will have its name cleared.
If for some technical reason a penalty has to be paid by City, then well and good but those making the decisions should give immense consideration to the damage they could cause to one of England’s greatest ever products.
Blighting the image of Manchester City would cast a blemish across the entire league. The eyes of the world will see envy and an absence of respect towards the club that built on the solid foundations of an excellent league and made it the greatest in the world.
Tampering with the lynchpin of this superstructure could see a collapse the English game might not be capable of surviving. Wise heads must make wise decisions and realise the Premier League needs the modern Manchester City more than anyone can begin to imagine.
The re-inventing of the game was planned and delivered at The Etihad. Every team at every level is now trying to play like Manchester City. Imitation is the ultimate form of flattery. This club should be loudly applauded, not roundly condemned.
Ronay is a massive racist
Looks like I am on my own thinking it wasn't a bad article by Ronay (inasmuch as he has any qualification at all for talking about legal and accounting issues, or football issues actually), but he did try to explain the rationale for a sporting advantage. Although, he did say rather strangely that "a few spare millions can make a massive difference on the pitch" which is weird. I think we could all point to hundreds of millions spent that haven't made any difference at all.
Fucking hell ....the Mirror! No wonder I don't read the fucking thing.The MEN is only the Manchester edition of the Mirror. It has hardly any dedicated local staff which is why it now consists of soap gossip, national news, articles from other Reach regional titles such as the Liverpool Echo etc.
Like much of the legacy newspaper industry it's on its arse with no print sales and collapsing online advertising.
I've had to look up the word Sophistry because I hadn't a clue what it meant so thanks, pal.Would agree but he certainly isn’t stupid, as the article is quite carefully constructed to appear balanced - and the conclusions contained in there are superficially plausible.
He presents three scenarios. The first being that we are found guilty - because we are guilty and that the club will engage in ‘vengeful’ retribution following it. The second scenario is the we are cleared but it’s inevitably qualified on the basis that it could be a just outcome, but by implication may very well not be. And the third scenario, and one he posits as the most likely, is a middle ground and one that crucially involves an admission of guilt on our part.
There is a common theme running through those three scenarios, namely that the club has done something wrong, a view that is underpinned by his description of the emails as ‘compelling’ despite them manifestly not painting the full picture (how could they?) juxtaposed against his derision at the club’s deployment of the word ‘irrefutable’ to describe the evidence we have/had in our possession to rebut these charges, through the prism of a gratuitous and grossly exaggerated reference to the hourly rate of our leading counsel. Along with, of course, the obligatory and misleading reference to the time-barring of the UEFA charges.
And he finishes off the article to remind everyone of the wider geopolitical consequences of a finding of guilt - a worthwhile point but plainly designed to bolster the inference of that gult, given its location at the end of the article.
It’s a carefully constructed, but wholly specious work of sophistry, and whilst conspicuously better written than most of its ilk, is still consciously designed to project the unwavering position that the club must have acted dishonestly.
Maybe it has, it’s perfectly plausible, however unlikely, but it’s the absence of any suggestion at the possibility that the club has not, and what the consequences are that would flow from that (rather than us simply getting away with it) that has marked this wholly dishonest species of article for the last two and a half years.
Only time I’d take 1-1 right nowCouldn't agree more. I'm thick skinned when it comes to opposition fans and shite articles, but I'm sick to fucking death of this 115 bollocks. It is a number that was deliberately inflated to make it seem so much worse. An actual deliberate move by the PL to grab headlines. The fucking abuse from the BBC, Sky and Talkshite (to be fair to Talkshite, at least they've had our guy on giving a balanced view and on quite a lot of occasions as well) has been fucking relentless. Every fucking achievement we've had has been tempered by 'we must not forget the 115 charges'. Every fucking time.
Now we have Blues who say just enjoy the success and ignore the cunts. I can do that, but only so far. It's now fucking boring. We'll never, ever lose this 115 tag. That's why it was decided to report it as 115 charges and not 5 or 6. They fucking knew what they were doing. Now we have the fucking Lefty Liberal cunts at the BBC lauding a fucking prosecuted hacker - typical fucking Left leaning organisation. Oh, and very interesting that he's hacked the two Arab owned clubs.
Anyway, if we get cleared I want the club to go on a fucking Tet Offensive against them all. Firstly ban that fat **** Schmeichel from the club. Then unless the BBC offer an apology ban them cunts for a season. Get in amongst all of the cunts. Then get after those red cunts Arsenal, Dippers and Rags - fucking expose the cunts.
Just fucking sick of it and the unbalanced reporting of the whole situation.
It makes for amusing readingFucking hell ....the Mirror! No wonder I don't read the fucking thing.