PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Metalartin said:
This is starting to stink if there is truly is no route to court. UEFA told everyone they were independent, that they had proof. It was found they did not. CAS's name got dragged through the dirt, rather than UEFA who misled everyone. Lies were told that UEFA proved to CAS things they did not, that City got off on "technicalities" on charges that weren't even explored at CAS.

The PL got to spend years building a case with their legal team. City's legal team has 2 weeks to respond. They appoint who they like as the chair and City have to accept it. All this talk of "City wont be allowed to drag this out". Smacks of: Don't defend yourself, don't challenge the "totally impartial" PL, accept it even if you know it's wrong.

Going back to a second committee appointed by them, is supposed to make City fans feel any more confident of a fair hearing why? If the first one is bad enough to justify redoing it, then what good is letting the same body orchestrate it again?

There has to be route one way or another, the PL aren't the law. No matter how many rules they put in their rulebook.
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I'm not sure I think our lawyers will be ready and pretty clued up from the CAS case as it wasn't that long ago.

I think that could be the PL's error here as they underestimate our preparedness.
 
The old romantic in me sees this as a fight to protect Yaya, Silva D , Vinnys, Sergio, Mancini and now Peps legacy it even touches on Bell, Summerbee whose families are woven into our fabric.

The old git that dominates my later years wonders how the chuff our big wigs didn't see it coming after 4 years investigation.

Either way win or lose a lot of media hacks, lawyers are quids in at our expense and the romance of the beautiful game bruised again.
 
Question for the experts

As I don’t know if we have committed any of these (and if people know, they have far more contacts then me and can imagine only a few people know for certain).

However, we cannot have just made it through PL FFP, it is a lot more generous then UEFA’s so there must be some wriggle room. This is memory and struggling to get the figures at the time online.

If they were to be able to prove something surely 2009 - 2011 is irrelevant for FFP anyway.

Then the years after they get some through and with that take into consideration we would still have passed, where does that leave us?

Now obviously the charges are about misleading etc. and it can argued whether we would have passed or not is actually irrelevant (and of course they will).

But it does make it harder with any potential punishment that there would not have been a breach regardless.

It could be that they then fine due to this, warn about future conduct but accept no sporting sanctions as actually regardless of this there was no sporting breach.

A lot of 2 + 2 = 453 etc. but I would be interested with someone more knowledgeable view on this?
 
argyle said:
The UEFA panel did. I fear the same. The PL is, afterall, paying their wages and they are involved with the PL besides sitting on this panel.

It will be like being investigated by the company you work for (who want you gone) by the panel of their choosing without, however, being able to take it to a truly independant tribunal or the courts afterwards if you know they have been unfair and wrong.
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The arbitration panel will all be highly respected and well remunerated people, hearing briefs from some of the countries most well known, eye-wateringly expensive QC’s on both sides of the table…..

The idea that they’re going to be biased in their ruling thanks to a crisp £20 and all you can eat Nando’s from the PL is thankfully not worth worrying about.
 
kiam06 said:
I'm not sure I think our lawyers will be ready and pretty clued up from the CAS case as it wasn't that long ago.

I think that could be the PL's error here as they underestimate our preparedness.
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Well it's not like the PL haven't hired lawyers every bit as good that learned from UEFA's failings. It's like one team coming off the back of pre-season and the other being full tilt. Maybe that's a bad analogy, I don't know. Doesn't seem that fair to me though.
 
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So we can’t take a guilty verdict to the courts? Not what I wanted to hear. I don’t care what anyone says about this KC, he’s an Arsenal fan. With it being their rules and having the red shirts breathing down their necks, this isn’t going to end well. I’ve been feeling confident since last night, but not at all now.
 
This in a nutshell is the problem £1.4b spent and nothing to show for it. The cartel are having to spend spend spend just try and keep up meaning their owners slice of pie is now nothing.
 

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Manchester_lalala said:
So we can’t take a guilty verdict to the courts? Not what I wanted to hear. I don’t care what anyone says about this KC, he’s an Arsenal fan. With it being their rules and having the red shirts breathing down their necks, this isn’t going to end well. I’ve been feeling confident since last night, but not at all now.
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It isn't half causing me stress, feel like I need a good break from it all.
 
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