PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[M18CTID]

In N. London for Xmas, and tried to engage various arsenal and spuds fans on this subject, but they were reluctant to engage with me other than saying ‘115’ a lot and how that huge number meant City had to be guilty.
The consistent repetition of that magic number made me realise that this whole thing has been nothing but a huge marketing and advertising exercise by the PL, with no goods or services being the subject but simply they are advertising and marketing City’s ‘guilt’.
Marketing campaigns invariably contain some kind of cliched catch phrase like ‘115’ or ‘state-owned’ and they are full of ambiguous and false claims.
It has certainly stuck with other fans I’ve spoken to, and it would seem to be the end in itself.
The guilt has been established by repetition and deceit.

Don’t worry. If we get cleared, then 115 (yes, I know 130 is the true figure but as you say 115 has stuck) will be the biggest marketing tool our club has ever had and we’ll be able to turn it on its head. It won’t just be the club either - the 1894 Group will never go short of ideas for at least another decade because, believe me, we are going to milk it to fuck to the point that fans of the red cartel cunts (and Spurs) will wish they hadn’t set foot in our stadium. It’ll be relentless as fuck!

 

[slbsn]

Were we being audited by BDO bk in 2010?

yes

 

[mancboy]

yes

Would they be classed as being complicit or just remiss in their duties?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I don't have any experience of dealing with the police as prosecutor but found the tone in private and SFO prosecutions to be a little more presumptuous of guilt. And of course, the PL do not have a prosecutors' code to abide by so you have this weird combination of aggressive lawyers in a civil dispute but on behalf of a pseudo regulator.

Yeah I know that, but I was just trying to draw a distinction between an SFO prosecution and these charges (which are obviously not a prosecution) in terms of the limits that are placed upon those that bring the charges in each instance.

Your last sentence is well observed in terms of the legal professionals that drive the process, and no doubt accentuates the distinction.

 

[Blue Maverick]

I’ve said this before but when we win they need to a count down on the big screen with not guilty at the end, it will probably get the biggest cheer this season.

 

[wolviedinho]

I’ve said this before but when we win they need to a count down on the big screen with not guilty at the end, it will probably get the biggest cheer this season.

That’s a great idea 115…114…113…

Then a big fuck you at the end.

Who do we have to erm talk to about that? -:)

 

[Newman Noggs]

Being that we both agree if City were to be essentially cleared it would be deemed a circus why would the Prem put themselves in such a position. I don't see the risk/reward from a rational business standpoint. I believe the Prem could have proceeded with their investigation and subsequent charges without basically instigating a public bloodbath. That's just my opinion.

Also, I don't see how the Prem "win". We are either cleared and it all looks like what some of us believe or we are found in violation and ruined leaving the Prem to explain how a club was able to reach a dominant status in their league over a period extending well beyond a decade only to have been in breach of a slew of serious rules over the same extended period of time. I don't see how that would strengthen the league's position of being some kind of effective self regulator. For me it further highlights their ineptitude and raises the need for someone independent to regulate what goes on.

Whilst I agree with virtually everything you say, I think that you mistakenly try to attribute reason to a corporation that has no mind of its own. It's reason and logic exist only in the minds of its shareholders and there isn't one of the other shareholders, even those that vote with us on some issues, who wouldn't want to see us wiped off the face of the earth taking our trophies with us Furthermore, I think the most powerful shareholders wouldn't be sorry to see the PL collapse to be replaced with something even more controllable. Indeed, I believe that is the end game here.

 

[johnevans]

Don’t worry. If we get cleared, then 115 (yes, I know 130 is the true figure but as you say 115 has stuck) will be the biggest marketing tool our club has ever had and we’ll be able to turn it on its head. It won’t just be the club either - the 1894 Group will never go short of ideas for at least another decade because, believe me, we are going to milk it to fuck to the point that fans of the red cartel cunts (and Spurs) will wish they hadn’t set foot in our stadium. It’ll be relentless as fuck!

Indeed.. I look forward to us being cleared and the response that will follow from our side to ram it down various Red Cartel, Media and Internet Herberts' throats.. all done with some style and panache, of course!

I'd suggest a celebratory album of covers, hits reworked to reflect the magic number itself, for example:

'One After 115' - The Beatles
'115 Ways To Leave Your Lover' - Paul Simon
'115 Or 6 To 4' - Chicago
'It Takes 115' - Marvin Gaye/Kim Weston
'115 Luftballons' - Nena
'Happy Birthday Sweet 115' - Neil Sedaka
'One (One Five)' - U2

 

[Lost for words]

It’s absolutely mental how many mugs are fooled into assuming a level of guilt simply down to the number of charges, without actually having any idea whatsoever of what the substance of the charges are. The sheer number of charges has not occurred out of anything other than rancour and malice.

If it was ONE serious charge then I for one could live with that with every confidence that the club could address the issue properly and with whatever it takes to reach a sensible decision leaving us, the EPL and UEFA to move on with satisfaction.
But this cannot happen as the authorities in dragging their feet have allowed it all to fester and the likes of the Sun readers and the the Star readers are to assume the charges are for real, ALL 115 of them, and that City are bang-to-rights guilty. The result of this assumption is that our season has been ruined, our summer rebuild likewise ruined and our supporters in their blue shirts out and about are called cheats.
Maybe our business model is shrinking through this and that, all along, was ALWAYS the intention.
And as nothing seemingly happens, such garbage as regularly appears in websites such as Football 365 just peddle this same old rubbish with what punishments are ready and waiting for the day the verdict is announced. Nothing is ever said about what will happen if City are cleared of all charges, but my assumption here is that we will be in full gloating mode while the rabble continue to accuse City of being cheats with billions being spent on so-called sports washing.
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[Niall666]

Don’t worry. If we get cleared, then 115 (yes, I know 130 is the true figure but as you say 115 has stuck) will be the biggest marketing tool our club has ever had and we’ll be able to turn it on its head. It won’t just be the club either - the 1894 Group will never go short of ideas for at least another decade because, believe me, we are going to milk it to fuck to the point that fans of the red cartel cunts (and Spurs) will wish they hadn’t set foot in our stadium. It’ll be relentless as fuck!

1894 Group will take care of everything.... Generous contributions will come flying in for a big fuck off banner draping the East stand on a super Sunday game. For all to see.