PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Rammy Blue]

The reputational damage to the club is enormous, I've never been a fan of the let's drink rivals tears defiance so popular in here. In my experience, the constant 115 has adversely effected my enjoyment of our club's amazing achievements and I know I'm not alone, I'm sick to death of it, I really am, I want this thread closed forever and I want the club to exact it's pound of flesh publicly and with prejudice.

In the absence of a smoking gun, process is a wonderful tool for bad faith actors in authority to punish by other means, I've seen with my own eyes how the not so criminal justice system uses the opaque, interminably slow non crime hate shite to terrorise mostly elderly women into frightened silence. I don't think Khaldoon or Soriano either thought through or cared how the excruciatingly long drawn out 115 would effect the fan base.

We all know how this ends, there'll be no redemption in the outcome, no unequivocal innocence, just some variance of guilt, the only mystery is its shade and spin.

Exactly my view mate.

 

[spider blue]

The reputational damage to the club is enormous, I've never been a fan of the let's drink rivals tears defiance so popular in here. In my experience, the constant 115 has adversely effected my enjoyment of our club's amazing achievements and I know I'm not alone, I'm sick to death of it, I really am, I want this thread closed forever and I want the club to exact it's pound of flesh publicly and with prejudice.

In the absence of a smoking gun, process is a wonderful tool for bad faith actors in authority to punish by other means, I've seen with my own eyes how the not so criminal justice system uses the opaque, interminably slow non crime hate shite to terrorise mostly elderly women into frightened silence. I don't think Khaldoon or Soriano either thought through or cared how the excruciatingly long drawn out 115 would effect the fan base.

We all know how this ends, there'll be no redemption in the outcome, no unequivocal innocence, just some variance of guilt, the only mystery is its shade and spin.

Fantastic post mate, that’s how I and possibly thousands of other fans feel regarding the onslaught of these so called 115 charges, it has definitely taken the shine of our accomplishment's.

 

[mcfcphil]

Why are you restricting this to what people say after the verdict? The damage has already been done. There are plenty in the media who, if the outcome is one of exoneration, have previously said things which are untrue, not caveated in any way and damaging to the club in the knowledge that City wouldn’t respond to them while matters were ongoing (or possibly at all).

I would also add that as much as I love Pep, and as much as his English has greatly improved in the last nine years, I don’t feel he articulates himself on this subject as effectively as I would like, partly because I suspect emotion gets in the way. He is ultimately the principal mouthpiece of the club, as he is the person with the biggest reach and appeal, but I am bound to wonder whether he will be able to convey the sense of injustice many on this thread feel about this whole situation and the motivations behind it in a way that does justice to it. Not sure what the answer is to that, but certainly more stridency from the club’s comms than the hitherto odd anodyne ‘irrefutable’ and ‘clear and organised’ would certainly help.

Think a big fuck off Molotov cocktail needs to be chucked in personally, but I fear the club will be too reticent about throwing the baby out with the bath water. Like I said previously, hope I’m wrong on this.

The club deemed it appropriate / value for money to spend many millions of pounds fighting these accusations in the courtroom.

I would argue it’s equally as important to spend money on fighting the accusations outside the courtroom in the event of exoneration.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The club deemed it appropriate / value for money to spend many millions of pounds fighting these accusations in the courtroom.

I would argue it’s equally as important to spend money on fighting the accusations outside the courtroom in the event of exoneration.

We all saw how the CAS time barred stuff was dishonestly spun, and continues to be so. The club should not just simply meekly let that happen again.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

The perfect fumble with the perfect post.

To varying degrees I've fallen out with friends, acquaintances, people I've only been introduced to 10 minutes earlier and even relatives over this accursed matter. For a long time I attempted to engage with whomever had lobbed whatever grenade of ill-informed banality or 'cheats' related banter in my direction, but long since gave that approach the heave-ho in favour of blunt and unmistakable contempt. I'm utterly sick of the whole business and, like you, it has adversely affected my enjoyment of our achievements, particularly during the last 18 months or so. When this is all over, my fervent wish is that we reject any offers of reconciliation and instead opt for the Cersei Lannister approach.

"I choose violence......"

Much as I enjoy that sentiment, it would be wise to remember where that course of action lead. We wouldn't want the whole building coming down on our heads in order to satiate a need for vengeance in the heat of the moment.

I am however comfortable our ownership has a wide reach and a long memory and that retribution will be served untraceably cold with malice aforethought.

 

[blue whippet]

The reputational damage to the club is enormous, I've never been a fan of the let's drink rivals tears defiance so popular in here. In my experience, the constant 115 has adversely effected my enjoyment of our club's amazing achievements and I know I'm not alone, I'm sick to death of it, I really am, I want this thread closed forever and I want the club to exact it's pound of flesh publicly and with prejudice.

In the absence of a smoking gun, process is a wonderful tool for bad faith actors in authority to punish by other means, I've seen with my own eyes how the not so criminal justice system uses the opaque, interminably slow non crime hate shite to terrorise mostly elderly women into frightened silence. I don't think Khaldoon or Soriano either thought through or cared how the excruciatingly long drawn out 115 would effect the fan base.

We all know how this ends, there'll be no redemption in the outcome, no unequivocal innocence, just some variance of guilt, the only mystery is its shade and spin.

Your last line makes me feel quite sad but is incredibly true. Whatever the actual outcome the damage has been done. I accept those who say our owners operate in a different sphere and will not extract their pound of flesh but they don't appear to fully realise exactly what this whole process has done to the club or it's fans.

 

[mcfcphil]

We all saw how the CAS time barred stuff was dishonestly spun, and continues to be so. The club should not just simply meekly let that happen again.

Let’s not kid ourselves, Miguel Delaney et al will not declare City are the victims of a calculated sabotage by rival clubs.

They will spin it dishonestly once again and there will be limits to what City can do about it on an individual ****-by-**** basis.

What I would say is you get one shot at handling the message in the immediate aftermath of the verdict. The way it’s handled during that window will define the saga forever.

Fingers crossed City are ready to unleash hell.

The sheer force of the messaging from the club needs to like nothing seen before.

 

[searsleftpeg]

I have great faith in Koolhand and his quiet words, when all this nonsense began about "I will have my say after this" .Said with dignity, but with such underlying menace. I'm just glad it's not me that's offended him and his,and our club.
Beware a Koolhand annoyed or for that matter mildly irritated.

 

[The perfect fumble]

The club should, but I doubt it will.

You're right, it's not their style and it's not their motivation. Khaldoon is not a football revolutionary driven by a desire to destroy the power of the cartel clubs, or the football MSM for that matter, he's an establishment man, or more importantly wants to be, he wants us to be a cartel club, more than that, he wants us to be the pre-eminant cartel club.

Khaldoon is clearly angry because for all the Sheikh's wealth and sophistication he's treated like an outsider, an interloper, not one of us, like the rich Jew of old who kept seeing his application for the golf club turned down time after time and realising why.

City is not an existential threat to the Premier League. Beyond the early days investment, what the club has spent in the market these past eight years or so, is par for the course for a club of our stature and success, if anything we've been a tad conservative.

Beyond permanently occupying a top six spot usually reserved for one of the usual suspects we've not destroyed the Prem. We were not a prime mover for the Super League, and are critical of the never ending creation and expansion of international/European club competitions, that drain our players and undermine our domestic league.

Assuming that when the 115 verdict is in, City are not found guilty of any of the substantive charges, an outcome more likely than not, my guess is the same as yours, Khaldoon will seek to draw a line under it, say next to nowt and carry on.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The club deemed it appropriate / value for money to spend many millions of pounds fighting these accusations in the courtroom.

I would argue it’s equally as important to spend money on fighting the accusations outside the courtroom in the event of exoneration.

The moment we missed was immediately after the CAS result. We should have been on the front foot with our comms. We were just too passive. It was a blunder.