That depends on the yardstick you are using to measure United’s competance. Before our owners came along united were doing what they had done for the previous 20 years with unparalleled success. They spent the most money, and still do, broke the world transfer record regularly, paid the biggest wages, bullied officials, ridiculed and belittled their nearest neighbours with not a hint of criticism from the media or powers that be. They put themselves into positions of power (G14) to alter the landscape of football to suit the powerful clubs of the time. City came along with a plan that did not rely on the parochial system of the English game but a more worldly view of their ambitions. Meanwhile united and the other red tops colluded with the media and broadcasters to keep City, and any other club with ambition, down. City’s plan blindsided these bigoted views and 15 years later City are one of the most valued and successful clubs in world football. I would respectfully ask you to have a look at our chairmans end of season interview and you will see clearly how they have succeeded even with all the press and media of Britain and Ireland against them.