PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Finally, finally....an in-depth look at what Everton's defence was and how ridiculous it became. It's an article on the Telegraph site, won't link as you need a subscription, and it shows that Everton had lots of assistance from the PL for a long period to ensure that they didn't fail. They ignored it. They then came up with increasingly bizarre explanations after admitting they had.

One of the most outlandish ones, it actually defies credulity, is that they should be allowed 10 mill off because they didn't sue a player who had been investigated for child sex offences. Although never charged or named he is no longer at the club but their case was that if they sued him it would affect his mental health. The panel decided they would never have received that money under any circumstances.
 
pfazz said:
Absolute worst scenario.
We get found guilty as hell.
We get relegated,.......................................................................................................... and then bounce straight back up and win everything in sight again and boil gallons more piss.
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Not a chance of that happening
There would be a mass exodus although we would come straight back
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Finally, finally....an in-depth look at what Everton's defence was and how ridiculous it became. It's an article on the Telegraph site, won't link as you need a subscription, and it shows that Everton had lots of assistance from the PL for a long period to ensure that they didn't fail. They ignored it. They then came up with increasingly bizarre explanations after admitting they had.
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One look at that the players they have bought in the past decade would tell you just how that club is run. They havent a clue.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Personally I think that's not the best way to frame it from Stefan. I think it's completely excessive to deduct 10 points from Everton and I would expect it will be mitigated on appeal. But even if it isn't, they failed the PL's FFP. That's binary; you either pass, if your aggregate losses over a 3-year period are £105m or less, or if they're £106m or more, you fail.

Even if City were to be found to have breached all 115 instances, that still doesn't mean we'd have failed FFP, certainly not given the likely amounts involved. And there's very little that goes past 2015 it would seem, certainly only up to 2018 at the latest.

I reckon there's no more than £20m a year involved in the disputed payments. Thats not anywhere near deserving of relegation.
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Being devil's advocate here.
Everton have been deducted 10 points for a one off overspend of 20M over three years.
If as you say 20M A YEAR is our disputed payments then over three years that's 60M, way in excess of Everton!
Over more years ( the investigation covers eight) then the situation gets even worse.
 
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Bluemoonadam said:
Someone tell me are our titles safe and the trophies we have won along the way?
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Yes they are, safe as houses. The souvenir trophies we will receive for the treble will be posted shortly to us season ticket holders and they cannot be taken back by the red tops, sorry premier league, FA and UEFA.
 
NorthamptonBlue said:
I must have read 100s of comments today saying that if we are exonerated, it will be because we have expensive lawyers and have been paying bribes. Some fans of other clubs will never accept our innocence. Guess we will just have to live with it.
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Live with it?.... I'll fucking embrace it as a badge of pride.
 
waspish said:
They new it would take years to get an outcome and the media every month could write an article about it and every media outlet can praise us then at the end say but.. 115

Just hope when we are cleared Khaldoon will go to town on the media and certain clubs..
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Well said mate
 
If all staff/players took siege mentality and decided to stay would relegation be that damaging? We would be still be in the champions league and would come straight back up.
 
Segga said:
If all staff/players took siege mentality and decided to stay would relegation be that damaging? We would be still be in the champions league and would come straight back up.
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We wouldn’t be in the Champs the following year unless we won it
We would therefore lose several players
 
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Its funny how Stefan is now a quoted expert on the 115, yet if I remember rightly he said City would get off at CAS and no one, nick harris included, quoted him then. Indeed the ping pong cheat from the Times said all City supporters were rats before the hearing. Unfortunately Stefans views on this fit with the medias hopes and so they have jumped on them. As in all memories I could be wrong, again;-)
 
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In reality nothing is going to happen any time soon. As stated by others the Premier League doesn’t have the expertise to prove conclusively that we have committed fraud, they have even admitted as much. whereas Everton was an open and shut case, they exceeded losses and didn’t dispute, ours is a much more nuanced case. Any judgement by the so called independent panel will be based purely on the balance of probability. Hence, our enemies want us shut down, so expulsion from the league and the EFL then say fuck off start at tier seven. number one, this cannot happen mid season as it would fuck up the TV schedules and cause a fixture melt down. So in theory they could do it pre-season, however, this would be just the exceptional circumstance that would go straight to the high court and cost the premier league tens of millions, an egregious overreach by the panel. What about a huge points deduction? Yes possible but again, unless they have a smoking gun that proves we have committed fraud, it’s an overreach. So my conclusion. Calm down folks, nothing is going to happen any time soon and when it does it won’t be that bad.
 
It's quite surprising, Spitty being a scouser,that he doesn't realise that it's possible to have different "charges" and that not all accusations are the same, having the the same outcome.
 
bluemanchester said:
Its funny how Stefan is now a quoted expert on the 115, yet if I remember rightly he said City would get off at CAS and no one, nick harris included, quoted him then. Indeed the ping pong cheat from the Times said all City supporters were rats before the hearing. Unfortunately Stefans views on this fit with the medias hopes and so they have jumped on them. As in all memories I could be wrong, again;-)
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He’s not said anything wrong. If we are found guilty, it’s a more serious breech than Everton’s. The PL are accusing us of committing fraud.

City remain confident that we will be exonerated, so hopefully we will never find out what the punishment would have been.
 
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