PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

skillman said:
Haha. Cunts.

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The total arrogance of Liverpool FC. They are trying to interfere in a legal case of one of their commercial rivals. It couldn't happen in any other industry. How long do they think a case involving millions of documents and 115 allegations will take? This is more complex than many criminal cases handled by the Serious Fraud Office and will take years. They can't keep their noses out of other clubs' business. They are the most despicable club in European football. The source of this story is Kieran Maguire, Liverpool-based, and a genuine football finance expert. He knows plenty about Liverpool's dirty tricks.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
PB - apologies if this has already been answered but just whilst you're here...

Do you have knowledge of how the panel works in terms of "who goes first", IE does the Premier League out their evidence across and we then defend ourselves? Or do we show all of our submissions which we believe proves us to have acted legally and they then get the opportunity to pick holes and attack our submissions?

Appreciate how criminal trials work but just wonder if this is the same?
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How can we ‘go first’ if we don’t get charged? They put forward their ‘evidence’ then we take it down bit by bit. :)
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Cunts indeed.

Although I would like to know what "leading the push" and "applying pressure" entails. As far as I was aware, this is now completely out of the PL's hands and sits with the Independent Commission. It makes sense that they pushed for charges, but in terms of reaching a verdict I've no idea how they think they'd possibly have a say in that.
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If you look at the independent commission that handed down the 10 points deduction for Everton. One guy is now working on behalf of Leeds to extract compensation out of Everton and another was a finance director at West Ham, how can that be an independent panel with no vested interest? Expect more of the same coming for us.
 
City should just refuse to acknowledge the tribunals decision if it is corrupt as we all think.

Stop playing matches, stop it all and wait for the regulator to be installed.

No way are we going to be able to take a huge fine and points deduction. We would never hear the end of it…ever!

Take the gloves off City and do whatever it takes to make sure the mud does not officially stick. The ramblings of the media will alway be a thing unfortunately.
 
BELFAST_BLUE_BOY said:
Just say IF the PL decide to pursue and issue a punishment to CITY for FFP and to other top tier clubs like Chelsea will this push the Euro Super League back onto the scene?

Bear in mind UEFA and the financial mess of Barca, Madrid and in Italy...not to mention PSG - the pressures is growing.....

Is this all a VERY BIG risk for PL and UEFA as all these clubs might just be handed the ammo and excuse to say "fuck you PL and UEFA we are off to set up our own league" and just maybe if us 'the fans' see it as US being punished by PL and UEFA we might just not fight against it as much as last time......Im just thinking ahead where football is going - COULD FFP have this a dominoe effect?
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For sure,,,
 
bugsyblue said:
Hahaha come off it! Jesus wept.

Yeah poor us, we’ve had it so hard.
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You are sounding like a ten year old kid. Whatever you are up to with the provocation should result in a ban on this thread.

We don’t need cunts polluting the board blue or not.
 
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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
If you look at the independent commission that handed down the 10 points deduction for Everton. One guy is now working on behalf of Leeds to extract compensation out of Everton and another was a finance director at West Ham, how can that be an independent panel with no vested interest? Expect more of the same coming for us.
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If that's true it's totally corrupt. No one connected to any other club should be involved in any decisions which could damage one of their rivals. This is not a regulatory system. Can you imagine LFC being allowed to pressurise lawyers acting for an Independent Regulator appointed by the Government.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
How can we ‘go first’ if we don’t get charged? They put forward their ‘evidence’ then we take it down bit by bit. :)
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We've already been charged. I know what you're saying and agree that's how it works in a criminal trial before the prosecution goes again (at least that's how it works in Scotland anyway), but something tells me litigation is treated differently which is why I ask.
 
So it's supposed to be an independent tribunal, but Liverpool are supposedly pressuring their mates, the Premier League, to expedite the case. If the PL start putting pressure on the tribunal to get the job done...surely Liverpool want justice to be done. That means things should be allowed to run their course. You Always Walk Alone etc etc

www.footballinsider247.com

Liverpool leading push for Man City to face FFP verdict

Football Insider has been told that Liverpool are the club leading the push for the Premier League to resolve Man City's FFP case.
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wolviedinho said:
City should just refuse to acknowledge the tribunals decision if it is corrupt as we all think.

Stop playing matches, stop it all and wait for the regulator to be installed.

No way are we going to be able to take a huge fine and points deduction. We would never hear the end of it…ever!

Take the gloves off City and do whatever it takes to make sure the mud does not officially stick. The ramblings of the media will alway be a thing unfortunately.
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Walking away from UEFA when their dirty tricks emerged and putting our faith in CAS turned out to be a smart move. We don't even know who is on the PL-picked panel considering allegations which could destroy our club which has been at the heart of the Manchester community since 1894.
 
redders said:
that's not creative accounting , it's illegal
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Is it? I don’t know the details but if we employed Mancini as an advisor by city football group why would that be illegal? It’s not allowed by ffp but it’s certainly not illegal in the real world as long as everything is declared to the tax authorities.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
If that's true it's totally corrupt. No one connected to any other club should be involved in any decisions which could damage one of their rivals. This is not a regulatory system. Can you imagine LFC being allowed to pressurise lawyers acting for an Independent Regulator appointed by the Government.
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Pretty sure they would be prepared to give it a go.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
If that's true it's totally corrupt. No one connected to any other club should be involved in any decisions which could damage one of their rivals. This is not a regulatory system. Can you imagine LFC being allowed to pressurise lawyers acting for an Independent Regulator appointed by the Government.
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Have a look on the Everton thread there’s a few interesting posts highlighting it. We’ve got an Arsenal season ticket holder heading up the panel on City’s hearing, looks like it can never really be a proper independent hearing.

We’ve been here before with the dippers applying pressure where they shouldn’t. There’s two teams in this whole scenario who have way to much influence by looks of it.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Looks like it but Etihad and Etisalat were both cleared by CAS. Which is precisely why I say these charges look pretty desperate.
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Yes I agree with that, that’s the only reason I can see how they can justify charging us with what they have done though. Even with that, I think a lot are spurious to say the least which gives the impression a fair amount at least of it is only about show.
 
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