PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[mexico1970]

Stalemate is the likely outcome, what-ever the verdict. A tko followed by appeal. a legal firm's dream; more wishful thinking by the Prem presented as facts, such as possible expulsion, compo, titles being stripped, championships re-awarded, etc. Since it's inception, the prem has been run as a cartel, by and for three clubs, earning billions for murdoch through sky, and fortunes for the clubs. Allowing the home team to keep all the profits from a game automatically widens the rift between the cartel and the rest of football, as intended. In some ways, a super-league now seems less of a very bad idea, imho

I despised the cartel this morning and even though I know all of your points and have done for some time it has invigorated my dislike for them and topped up my rational hatred to acceptable levels again.

 

[Paladin]

Because they have been on notice of that potential fraud since Der Speigel - 6 years ago

Yeah, that makes sense, but there won't be any knowledge of actual fraud if and until the verdict. I would have thought that would be the start of the limitation for any potential compensation based on fraud.

Hedging their bets I suppose.

 

[Maly]

No you said something that makes no sense

Does it really matter?

 

[slbsn]

Yeah, that makes sense, but there won't be any knowledge of actual fraud if and until the verdict. I would have thought that would be the start of the limitation for any potential compensation based on fraud.

Hedging their bets I suppose.

Doesn't need to be knowledge of an established/proven fraud. It is for the claimant to commence its work once it has sufficient confidence to justify embarking on the preliminaries to issue proceedings. Pretty sure the latest date is around Der Speigel for these allegations (although obviously we'd need to see the judgment). Put it this way, no claimant could argue the first time they thought they may have a claim vs City is sometime in the future from now. They have all been considering it for years (if claims proven).

 

[JewelZee]

i know nothing but i would have thought a stalemate is impossible. Either the PL can prove the allegations or they can't. Surely?

Agree. A stalemate is not even remotely an option. What are we doing here? The lack of faith and shit trickling out of the asses of some supporters is a bit troubling. Nothing has changed. Sit tight and show some faith...

 

[Saddleworth2]

They probably won't have even started writing up their findings yet, will be nothing to leak. The lawyers on both sides might have an inkling how it's going but doubt anything more than that.

I’m assuming that the two sets of lawyers will make separate submissions to the panel and won’t be interrogated together so there will be little likelihood that either team will know how they are doing. Is that how it works as in a court of law you would generally get an inkling for which way the wind is blowing?

 

[Paladin]

Doesn't need to be knowledge of an established/proven fraud. It is for the claimant to commence its work once it has sufficient confidence to justify embarking on the preliminaries to issue proceedings. Pretty sure the latest date is around Der Speigel for these allegations (although obviously we'd need to see the judgment). Put it this way, no claimant could argue the first time they thought they may have a claim vs City is sometime in the future from now. They have all been considering it for years (if claims proven).

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[blueparrot]

I’m assuming that the two sets of lawyers will make separate submissions to the panel and won’t be interrogated together so there will be little likelihood that either team will know how they are doing. Is that how it works as in a court of law you would generally get an inkling for which way the wind is blowing?

I have no idea really, but my assumption is, both sides provide their evidence ,then the panel call each side back and cross examine them on their evidence using the evidence from both sides and there is a bit of back and forth.
This is the point where I’m guessing one side or the other may get an inkling ,from the questions asked of them and the evidence they have in answer to those questions

 

[Brendan110_0]

correct but the rule is simply, does the manager have a contract or not. There's no mention of exact renumeration is needed or a second contract with a separate company is not allowed. So the mancini stuff is pretty much in the bin from the start. That's before the statute of limitations even needs considering

Schrodinger's limitations, don't apply to City but do when other clubs are after compensation.

 

[Lord Blue]

I’m assuming that the two sets of lawyers will make separate submissions to the panel and won’t be interrogated together so there will be little likelihood that either team will know how they are doing. Is that how it works as in a court of law you would generally get an inkling for which way the wind is blowing?

city will get the chance to defend every point that the premier league makes.
both sides will hear every thing that is said so both sides will at least be aware of any slam dunks.
it's border line judgments that would be less predictable i expect.