PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Colin Bells Boots]

If you don't like paying costs, don't bring lawyers into the equation. Especially not anyone over the rank of solicitor, and they are expensive enough.

Football managed for well over 100 years without all these fucking complicated financial regulations that no fucker understands. Once you need to start instructing KCs and their ilk to resolve questions you are essentially writing a cheque for ££££££££££££££s.

This legalistic approach to what is a game is a bit silly, quite frankly. The rules need to be massively simplified and their meaning should be obvious to all, not a mystery wrapped in an enigma. If the rules can't be understood by a reasonably intelligent layman, they are too complex.

But absolutely necessary to protect the interests of the cabal team members only.

 

[give it to gordon]

You can bring in any rule you like, but if it's against UK law, I would have thought it's irrelevant and useless. Oh, hang on, where have I heard that before?

Shouldn't there be repercussions for the clubs that voted in illegal rules ?

I don't see how you can vote for something illegal and get away scot free

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Shouldn't there be repercussions for the clubs that voted in illegal rules ?

I don't see how you can vote for something illegal and get away scot free

This is what I struggle with. Clubs seemingly knew that excluding shareholder loans was likely to be unlawful yet still voted the APT rules that excluded them through. They ignored legal advice and voted based on self-interest.

 

[nmc]

But that's the court adjudging costs, surely you can't bake into the rules that if you breach them, then you have to pay all costs?

Wouldn’t it be allegedly breached the rules. Just goes to show their arrogance.

 

[give it to gordon]

This is what I struggle with. Clubs seemingly knew that excluding shareholder loans was likely to be unlawful yet still voted the APT rules that excluded them through. They ignored legal advice and voted based on self-interest.

Perhaps Americans being so use to riding rough shot over anything they don't agree with, can do the same in the UK. So far it seems they can.

They no outcry from the public or press/media for points deduction etc for bringing illegal rules. In fact it's the opposite blaming City for challenging the illegal rules !

 

[half & half derby scarf]

I said at the start of all this that the only 2 options were the collapse of the Premier League or a major back down on their part. There seems so much animosity involved now, that only a major fracture will result. Very sad for our game when you consider the basic premise that a club just wants to invest in it's own future, be it Newcastle, City, Leicester, Everton or anyone outside the cartel.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Perhaps Americans being so use to riding rough shot over anything they don't agree with, can do the same in the UK. So far it seems they can.

They no outcry from the public or press/media for points deduction etc for bringing illegal rules. In fact it's the opposite blaming City for challenging the illegal rules !

In any normal situation, if a commercial enterprise implemented rules it knew were unlawful, because these rules didn't suit a major customer and that customer asked them to exclude those rules, the CEO and Chairman would have to resign if another major customer, which was disadvantaged by that exclusion, successfully challenged this in court.

 

[give it to gordon]

I said at the start of all this that the only 2 options were the collapse of the Premier League or a major back down on their part. There seems so much animosity involved now, that only a major fracture will result. Very sad for our game when you consider the basic premise that a club just wants to invest in it's own future, be it Newcastle, City, Leicester, Everton or anyone outside the cartel.

Said it before and I'll say it again.........the biggest threat to our game is American owners.
It's seems only a few fan bases can see this, and perhaps a very small amount of the press/media

 

[give it to gordon]

In any normal situation, if a commercial enterprise implemented rules it knew were unlawful, because these rules didn't suit a major customer and that customer asked them to exclude those rules, the CEO and Chairman would have to resign if another major customer, which was disadvantaged by that exclusion, successfully challenged this in court.

Is not knowing the rules were unlawful an excuse ?

 

[oldius]

I said at the start of all this that the only 2 options were the collapse of the Premier League or a major back down on their part. There seems so much animosity involved now, that only a major fracture will result. Very sad for our game when you consider the basic premise that a club just wants to invest in it's own future, be it Newcastle, City, Leicester, Everton or anyone outside the cartel.

A new chief and an independent regulator will go some way to dealing with that. At the moment, you have a leader pushed around by a small number of clubs, installing unlawful rules for their benefit, with no independent regulation, and you have another club, champions of the nation, pulling those rules apart and threatening further legal action. Until such a time that a small number of clubs cannot push the organisation around because it is a properly regulated group operating under UK law, this will go on and on.