PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

CityFil said:
Stefan, thanks for an excellent explanation of this very complex procedure.

One question, and I realise that you can only surmise.
Do you think that Masters and the rest of the PL knew just how difficult it would be to prove any guilt in such a complex case?
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Thanks

Yes, I think they knew the challenges. I think the foolish Leicester appeal (and going further with APT on shareholder loans) signals either a stubbornness or a feeling that they have no choice to pursue things even if they have serious challenges to win.
 
I've just seen Ronnie Kray buying a pound of King Edwards in Asda. I thought he was dead.

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slbsn said:
Thanks

Yes, I think they knew the challenges. I think the foolish Leicester appeal (and going further with APT on shareholder loans) signals either a stubbornness or a feeling that they have no choice to pursue things even if they have serious challenges to win.
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I think it’s a mixture of stubborness and a failure to get on top of the subject. Masters at the HoC just floundered. I suspect he doesn’t do his homework.
 
slbsn said:
Thanks

Yes, I think they knew the challenges. I think the foolish Leicester appeal (and going further with APT on shareholder loans) signals either a stubbornness or a feeling that they have no choice to pursue things even if they have serious challenges to win.
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Sorry Stefan - can you reword said paragraph in basic terms..?
 
slbsn said:
Thanks

Yes, I think they knew the challenges. I think the foolish Leicester appeal (and going further with APT on shareholder loans) signals either a stubbornness or a feeling that they have no choice to pursue things even if they have serious challenges to win.
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Masters relentless pursuit of City, driven by innuendo from the cartel clubs rather than concrete evidence, has exposed a deep organisational myopia, as it sacrificed credibility in an attempt to weaken City at the request of Arsenal, Spurs, Rags, and Dippers—ultimately proving to be existentially reckless, threatening the very integrity of the league itself.

A strong & competent board would have stopped it years ago. To continue still on this path shows just how immature the people operating at this level are.
 
cheekybids said:
Masters relentless pursuit of City, driven by innuendo from the cartel clubs rather than concrete evidence, has exposed a deep organisational myopia, as it sacrificed credibility in an attempt to weaken City at the request of Arsenal, Spurs, Rags, and Dippers—ultimately proving to be existentially reckless, threatening the very integrity of the league itself.

A strong & competent board would have stopped it years ago. To continue still on this path shows just how immature the people operating at this level are.
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Well, we have the emails. Ho Ho.
 
slbsn said:
A long read on the inevitable questions about inevitable appeals. EXPLAINED: 115 - when, what and how? A guide to the inevitable appeals

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EXPLAINED: 115 - when, what and how? A guide to the inevitable appeals

Only one more year to go?
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If as most City fans believe, we are exonerated, with possibly some minor infringements ,non cooperation or similar, the sanctions should not take long ,surely.
If that is the case ,will there be any reciprocal sanctions for the P.L.,as it would be obvious,(to quote a posh mate) these charges are just a vexatious effort to keep City down.
 
searsleftpeg said:
If as most City fans believe, we are exonerated, with possibly some minor infringements ,non cooperation or similar, the sanctions should not take long ,surely.
If that is the case ,will there be any reciprocal sanctions for the P.L.,as it would be obvious,(to quote a posh mate) these charges are just a vexatious effort to keep City down.
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The premier league are also meant to behave in good faith as are the other members? Would be interesting to find out what was in Masters Whatsapp messages and emails he was ordered to hand over!
 
richards30 said:
The premier league are also meant to behave in good faith as are the other members? Would be interesting to find out what was in Masters Whatsapp messages and emails he was ordered to hand over!
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In the same vein, it would be nice to see some of Gills and Parrys furtive writings.
 
cheekybids said:
Masters relentless pursuit of City, driven by innuendo from the cartel clubs rather than concrete evidence, has exposed a deep organisational myopia, as it sacrificed credibility in an attempt to weaken City at the request of Arsenal, Spurs, Rags, and Dippers—ultimately proving to be existentially reckless, threatening the very integrity of the league itself.

A strong & competent board would have stopped it years ago. To continue still on this path shows just how immature the people operating at this level are.
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I remain convinced that the owners only read the papers that framed all this as "caught red handed emails, CAS let off on technicalities" and have put huge amounts of pressure on the league to pursue this against the best interests of everyone involved really.
 
slbsn said:
Thanks

Yes, I think they knew the challenges. I think the foolish Leicester appeal (and going further with APT on shareholder loans) signals either a stubbornness or a feeling that they have no choice to pursue things even if they have serious challenges to win.
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It signals they’re a set of absolute cunts.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I remain convinced that the owners only read the papers that framed all this as "caught red handed emails, CAS let off on technicalities" and have put huge amounts of pressure on the league to pursue this against the best interests of everyone involved really.
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I think the owners controlled the narrative in the papers to pressure the premier league to pursue.
 
mcfcphil said:
I’m not sure that’s true as the charges came largely out of the blue (excuse the pun)?

In fact, the process would have remained behind closed doors if the PL and City had won the court proceeding around public interest etc.
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I remember, in the past when we were seeing records broken and amazing title runs, we had just won something major.... Out of the blue one of the main reporters suddenly asking about potential PL charges (this was maybe a year and a half before they dropped).

There wasn't a general feeling that charges would be brought, in fact we thought it was ridiculous that they would try the same thing as UEFA.. it wasn't at all in the horizon but there was this ONE reporter highlighting it.

It convinced me there was a media campaign bubbling and chipping away in the background. Some reporters had seemingly made this their campaign.

Someone somewhere is tapping up reporters against City.
 
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