PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Not entirely relevant but that Overlap show on Sky discussing this every week is becoming a bad joke. How the club shrugs shoulders at the mud slinging is a mystery to me.

It’s discussed by fucking idiots in Carragher and Scholes who don’t have a clue what the whole charges are about and the reality that not much of it will stick.
 
Nunez will never be an elite full back but he improved hugely since his Derby Day disaster and he is good moving forward. He had a really good CWC as well. After the United game I would have driven him to the airport but let's see if he keeps getting better.
He's good player, hopefully he has now been coached on how to be a defender
 
How would we even get such audio ? Surely they wouldn’t say stuff like that if clubs are allowed audio or allowed staff to watch VAR
We probably just tune into the frequency of the equipment they are using and press record.

I have loads of bootlegs, where folk have recorded the in ear monitor audio of the various musicians on stage and then later mixed them together and what you have is a stunning almost official sounding recording.

Also the bootlegger doesn't need to be in the theatre but can be sat outside of the venue in his car.

 
But it's the UKs main broadcaster and they're the leading pundits. There's been no verdict and yet they're insinuating all sorts of things.

It reflects the state of the media and broadcasting in this country when they can’t produce unbiased content with knowledgeable pundits who actually have an idea what they are talking about. When this gets put in the bin productions like the overlap will be joyous to watch for their meltdowns and mental gymnastics as to why City got away with it.
 
CAS reduced the UEFA fine of E30M to E10M as, they somewhat agreed with City's complaint that confidential information was being leaked by the investigative chamber.

That seems to be the conventional wisdom on Bluemoon, but can you refer me to where CAS said that? I don't remember them mentioning leaks at all on their assessment of non-cooperation. May be wrong, it was a while ago since I looked.
 
I asked Chatgpt to do an article taking City's side and highlighting our rivals involvement (Something you wont ever see in the news - but its easy to frame). It did a pretty good job tbf.

The 115 Charges: How the Premier League’s Case Against Manchester City is a Political Power Play


For over a decade, Manchester City have been the rising force in English football, transforming from perennial underdogs into serial champions. But their unprecedented success has not gone unnoticed by England’s traditional powerhouses — clubs historically draped in red, such as Manchester United, Liverpool, and Arsenal.

The ongoing Premier League case, citing 115 charges against City, is often presented as a quest for “integrity” in football. Yet, the deeper reality may be less about justice and more about preserving the dominance of the established elite.

A Rivalry Beyond the Pitch

The charges relate to alleged financial breaches stretching back years, but it’s crucial to note: Manchester City have consistently denied any wrongdoing. They have already successfully defended themselves in similar disputes — most notably against UEFA at the Court of Arbitration for Sport, where the majority of allegations were dismissed.

This saga appears less like a fair and balanced investigation, and more like a coordinated political offensive.



Why This Looks Like a Coordinated Attack


  • Threat to the Old Order
    City’s rapid rise has disrupted the decades-long dominance of the traditional “red” clubs, who once enjoyed unchallenged supremacy in the Premier League and European competition.
  • The Timing of Allegations
    Many charges date back years, yet only surfaced in force once City became the most consistent winners in English football — raising questions about why this supposed misconduct wasn’t addressed earlier.
  • Influence in Premier League Governance
    Clubs like United, Liverpool, and Arsenal hold considerable sway within the Premier League’s decision-making structures, enabling them to lobby for measures that protect their financial and competitive advantages.
  • Precedent of UEFA Case Collapse
    In 2020, UEFA attempted to ban City from European competition for alleged breaches of Financial Fair Play rules. CAS overturned the ban, stating there was insufficient evidence — undermining the credibility of similar accusations.
  • Selective Scrutiny
    Other clubs have faced financial or operational controversies, yet none have been subjected to a media and legal campaign of this magnitude. City’s success seems to have made them a uniquely high-priority target.
  • Media Amplification
    The narrative has been heavily amplified by media outlets historically aligned with the “big red” clubs, framing City as guilty before the case has even been heard.



The Bigger Picture

At its core, this case says as much about football politics as it does about financial regulations. It’s a test of whether the Premier League is truly a fair competition or simply a cartel designed to protect historical brands from emerging challengers.

City’s legal battle is not just about defending one club’s reputation — it’s about resisting an entrenched power structure that fears competition. If Manchester City are ultimately cleared, it won’t just be a victory for them; it will be a moment that exposes the deep-rooted self-interest driving football’s governing bodies.




 
Martin Samuel.

From his article about Newcaslte United and their transfer troubles.

In many ways, Newcastle’s struggles are justifying City’s decision to go hard from the start. We will discover, probably next month, the legality of this means to an end, but obligingly playing by rules drafted by the established elite to keep the ambitious out has certainly done Newcastle few favours.

And those rules were wrangled into place by the very clubs that most benefit from them. That’s why they so resent the challenge from City

Fair play to Samuel’s, he has always supported and backed City in most of his articles about 115.
 
Martin Samuel.

From his article about Newcaslte United and their transfer troubles.

In many ways, Newcastle’s struggles are justifying City’s decision to go hard from the start. We will discover, probably next month, the legality of this means to an end, but obligingly playing by rules drafted by the established elite to keep the ambitious out has certainly done Newcastle few favours.

And those rules were wrangled into place by the very clubs that most benefit from them. That’s why they so resent the challenge from City

Fair play to Samuel’s, he has always supported and backed City in most of his articles about 115.
think more about APT than 115 or how i read it
 
Not entirely relevant but that Overlap show on Sky discussing this every week is becoming a bad joke. How the club shrugs shoulders at the mud slinging is a mystery to me.
It is nothing to do with Sky. Graphics were designed to look a bit like them and they have a Sky Bet sponsorship but the production is wholly owned by Neville's production company. But Buzz 16, the production company is now largely owned by an entrepreneur (Marc Boyan (another United fan)) and Sky Bet is owned by Flutter (owners of Betfair and Paddy Power).
 
think more about APT than 115 or how i read it
The hearing is in October I believe so decision on APT is not next month if that is correct. And anyway it is misunderstood. Newcastle admit that all their PIF deals are RELATED party deals so even if APT didn't exist, they still need to be fair valued.
 
I asked Chatgpt to do an article taking City's side and highlighting our rivals involvement (Something you wont ever see in the news - but its easy to frame). It did a pretty good job tbf.

The 115 Charges: How the Premier League’s Case Against Manchester City is a Political Power Play


For over a decade, Manchester City have been the rising force in English football, transforming from perennial underdogs into serial champions. But their unprecedented success has not gone unnoticed by England’s traditional powerhouses — clubs historically draped in red, such as Manchester United, Liverpool, and Arsenal.

The ongoing Premier League case, citing 115 charges against City, is often presented as a quest for “integrity” in football. Yet, the deeper reality may be less about justice and more about preserving the dominance of the established elite.


A Rivalry Beyond the Pitch

The charges relate to alleged financial breaches stretching back years, but it’s crucial to note: Manchester City have consistently denied any wrongdoing. They have already successfully defended themselves in similar disputes — most notably against UEFA at the Court of Arbitration for Sport, where the majority of allegations were dismissed.

This saga appears less like a fair and balanced investigation, and more like a coordinated political offensive.




Why This Looks Like a Coordinated Attack


  • Threat to the Old Order
    City’s rapid rise has disrupted the decades-long dominance of the traditional “red” clubs, who once enjoyed unchallenged supremacy in the Premier League and European competition.
  • The Timing of Allegations
    Many charges date back years, yet only surfaced in force once City became the most consistent winners in English football — raising questions about why this supposed misconduct wasn’t addressed earlier.
  • Influence in Premier League Governance
    Clubs like United, Liverpool, and Arsenal hold considerable sway within the Premier League’s decision-making structures, enabling them to lobby for measures that protect their financial and competitive advantages.
  • Precedent of UEFA Case Collapse
    In 2020, UEFA attempted to ban City from European competition for alleged breaches of Financial Fair Play rules. CAS overturned the ban, stating there was insufficient evidence — undermining the credibility of similar accusations.
  • Selective Scrutiny
    Other clubs have faced financial or operational controversies, yet none have been subjected to a media and legal campaign of this magnitude. City’s success seems to have made them a uniquely high-priority target.
  • Media Amplification
    The narrative has been heavily amplified by media outlets historically aligned with the “big red” clubs, framing City as guilty before the case has even been heard.



The Bigger Picture

At its core, this case says as much about football politics as it does about financial regulations. It’s a test of whether the Premier League is truly a fair competition or simply a cartel designed to protect historical brands from emerging challengers.

City’s legal battle is not just about defending one club’s reputation — it’s about resisting an entrenched power structure that fears competition. If Manchester City are ultimately cleared, it won’t just be a victory for them; it will be a moment that exposes the deep-rooted self-interest driving football’s governing bodies.





Chat GPT and other AI tools are going to make the 'laptop classes' extinct and my God am I here for it. Get a real fucking job.
 
Nunez is a better stand in than the previous ones like Zinchenko. I’m more worried about the centre backs.

Nunez tackles like a midfielder, which is alright at the half way line, giving away a cheap free kick,
But in our penalty box it's not.
Hope he has learnt this

Nunez will never be an elite full back but he improved hugely since his Derby Day disaster and he is good moving forward. He had a really good CWC as well. After the United game I would have driven him to the airport but let's see if he keeps getting better.

He's good player, hopefully he has now been coached on how to be a defender
and hopefully people will learn how to correctly spell his name.
 
The hearing is in October I believe so decision on APT is not next month if that is correct. And anyway it is misunderstood. Newcastle admit that all their PIF deals are RELATED party deals so even if APT didn't exist, they still need to be fair valued.

I think American “Mates Deal sponsors” should be fair value!
 
And so called City fans go on there to laugh and joke with Neville and Carragher. Helmets

The only question i would be asking is how did you spitty keep your job after spitting at the young girl.
Question to ragboy why do sky allow you to preach to encourage rags to break into the swamp.
 

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