PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Coatigan said:
There are 'more likely and less likely times' is quite different from 'they will choose and agree a time that is convenient'.

I am with SR on this one, think it will drop when it's ready, bar statutory holidays. Doubt they will wait for an international break if done, doubt they will rush to make one if not.

Obviously just my take, not a 'this I know' claim thst lots of others seem to have fwiw.
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I think we might have to wait until after the season is finished. Can you imagine the carnage if it drops mid-season. Maybe a time like the week beginning 3rd June, there will surely be a big impact, but the World Cup starts the following week and the majority of football fans will have something else to focus on for an extended period of time. It'll still be ringing in our ears by the time the new season starts but the noise level will be more manageable.
 
Levy and the arse official must have signed an absolute watertight ND otherwise canaries would be complaining they can't get a chirp in edgeways !!! Those two would be blurting everything to the media if they could .
 
halfcenturyup said:
Not sure what your point is. I said in the first paragraph of my post that this will drop when it's ready, after a number of days for review by the parties. I am not trying to imply the panel are dragging their feet.

My point in the second paragraph that you quoted was that if I think it drops when it's ready I am hardly likely to think the panel will be taking sporting considerations into consideration in the timing. If they were that worried about sporting considerations then they would have expedited the process because the length of time it's taking is much more damaging to the sport and the reputations of the two parties than releasing the damn thing in an international break or not.

So my conclusion was that it drops when the panel finishes it and they won't give a single toss about sporting considerations. Is that clearer?

I suppose, possibly the two parties could co-ordinate a short delay in the publication date but I am struggling to imagine circumstances where both parties would want to delay, tbh. And we would hear some details about it during the delay in all probability, anyway.
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I should've inserted a smiley face and definitely wasn't having a go at you, so here's one for you now :)

I took the second sentence in your paragraph that i quoted as you suggesting they possibly weren't getting a move on and so i was simply saying we don't know whether they are or not, because nobody can state there is a delay when there is no actual proof that there is delay.
That's all, nothing more :)
 
pepguardiola'smoustache said:
I should've inserted a smiley face and definitely wasn't having a go at you, so here's one for you now :)

I took the second sentence in your paragraph that i quoted as you suggesting they possibly weren't getting a move on and so i was simply saying we don't know whether they are or not, because nobody can state there is a delay when there is no actual proof that there is delay.
That's all, nothing more :)
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I am of the firm opinion the panel are culpable. They reached their decision long ago (which is undoubtedly in our favour) and this absurd delay in its publication allows further unwarranted reputational damage to be inflicted on the club for no good reason.
 
pepguardiola'smoustache said:
I should've inserted a smiley face and definitely wasn't having a go at you, so here's one for you now :)

I took the second sentence in your paragraph that i quoted as you suggesting they possibly weren't getting a move on and so i was simply saying we don't know whether they are or not, because nobody can state there is a delay when there is no actual proof that there is delay.
That's all, nothing more :)
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Fair enough, I probably came across as a bit of a delicate flower. It wasn't really the intention - there are enough of those around already.

I should just stick to being a ****. Much safer :)
 
johnny crossan said:
I am of the firm opinion the panel are culpable. They reached their decision long ago (which is undoubtedly in our favour) and this absurd delay in its publication allows further unwarranted reputational damage to be inflicted on the club for no good reason.
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I agree that they reached their decision long ago but they can't just blurt it out one way or the other after deciding, can they, and then follow that up with, but you are going to have to wait ages for us to type it up before we give you the full details.

You use the word delay, but i again repeat, how can there be a delay if no timescale was given for publication of the result in the first place?
This so-called delay is nothing more than hearsay imho, mate.
 
pepguardiola'smoustache said:
I agree that they reached their decision long ago but they can't just blurt it out one way or the other after deciding, can they, and then follow that up with, but you are going to have to wait ages for us to type it up before we give you the full details.

You use the word delay, but i again repeat, how can there be a delay if no timescale was given for publication of the result in the first place?
This so-called delay is nothing more than hearsay imho, mate.
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our legals seem agreed that 11 months+ after the conclusion of the hearing is unprecedented for this type of deliberation.
 
Just a thought, given how long this is going on.
What happens if one of the panel passes away before this is concluded?
Obviously I don't wish anyone dead.
I suppose it depends on what is causing the delay, if it's just wording I assume they can carry on but if they are still deliberating and the panel is reduced to two members it would be possible to not have a verdict. If that's the case do we reset and have 12 weeks of evidence again followed by the same huge deliberation?
 
johnny crossan said:
our legals seem agreed that 11 months+ after the conclusion of the hearing is unprecedented for this type of deliberation.
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But there has never been this type of deliberation before so they are simply guessing, aren't they, albeit educatedly, but nonetheless guesswork.

I stand by my claim that there is no factual proof of any delay, mate.
If someone can provide proof that there is a delay my drum will fall silent.
 
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Question for slbn or any other knowledgeable people on here... How much time will have been taken up deciding a verdict and how long taken up as writing the decision up. In these cases I mean.

I know it's an extraordinary case but what percentage of the time is taken up doing those various activities in cases like this?
 
pepguardiola'smoustache said:
But there has never been this type of deliberation before so they are simply guessing, aren't they, albeit educatedly, but nonetheless guesswork.

I stand by my claim that there is no factual proof of any delay, mate.
If someone can provide proof that there is a delay my drum will fall silent.
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If there were no train timetables, you might be waiting a long time on the platform, but you couldn't complain that your train was delayed.
 
johnny crossan said:
I am of the firm opinion the panel are culpable. They reached their decision long ago (which is undoubtedly in our favour) and this absurd delay in its publication allows further unwarranted reputational damage to be inflicted on the club for no good reason.
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What would the panels reason be for delaying the decisions release?
 
slbsn said:
This isn't correct. There are more likely times and less likely times. It was never possible to be in the first 3-4 months. It was not possible in August. It is not possible in late December. It is more likely now than 6 months ago and less likely in 6 months time.

And to be clear, the timings I have discussed reflect the views of the parties and their senior lawyers as opposed to being made up or riffed.

I know you don't believe it but it is true.
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6 months’ time.
 
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