ive always said that winning your domestic league is a sign of consistancy,and the best trophy to win,but for prestige,winning the champions league,is the trophy to win,it doesnt really matter whether your the best in europe or not,at the end of the day you are the champions of europe.cup winning sides do not have to be the best,take wigan last year in the cup final,but if you get the luck,and the will to win it,then more often than not ,you win the cup.
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PL v CL
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LongsightM13
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Win the league, every day of the week. Always must be the number one priority.
The CL is a cup, at the end of the day. You need luck to win it. Look at Chelsea & the other lot.
The CL is a cup, at the end of the day. You need luck to win it. Look at Chelsea & the other lot.
Prestwich_Blue
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The point about the CL though is that it's more than just a cup. The financial rewards for progress are very significant and we need that revenue. Also the better we do, the easier the draws we will get.LongsightM13 said:Win the league, every day of the week. Always must be the number one priority.
The CL is a cup, at the end of the day. You need luck to win it. Look at Chelsea & the other lot.
Prestwich_Blue said:The point about the CL though is that it's more than just a cup. The financial rewards for progress are very significant and we need that revenue. Also the better we do, the easier the draws we will get.LongsightM13 said:Win the league, every day of the week. Always must be the number one priority.
The CL is a cup, at the end of the day. You need luck to win it. Look at Chelsea & the other lot.
And European success is important for building up the brand name worldwide. We'll only get so far as a top four English team... our world tour this summer has shown how far behind we are for international following (unless we go to Indonesia... for some reason we have tens of thousands of fans there).
Joburg Hero
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They're all shit options. A is the only slightly acceptable option. I'd be happy enough with 2nd and a CL final as long as we'd made progress on the pitch. I'd be happy with winning the PL and going out of the CL in the knockouts to Barca/Real Madrid/Bayern, and I'd be happy with winning the CL and finishing third. Anything else will be deemed unacceptable.
East Level 2
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Yeah, yeah, yeah - want some please.JoeMercer'sWay said:F) win the PL and the CL, plus the FA Cup and League Cup without losing a game in any competition.
Watching_Swede
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Re: Sv: PL v CL
I dont think you can make a general theory of specific occurancies. I do think it's more normal that teams that have been dominant on national soil are able to succeed in the CL than teams that don't win at home.
East Level 2 said:Liverpool were hardly dominant domestically in the years leading up to their CL win in 2005.Watching_Swede said:Winning the league is a priority. Being dominant domestically over a number of years is the best prerequisite for success in the champions league.
I dont think you can make a general theory of specific occurancies. I do think it's more normal that teams that have been dominant on national soil are able to succeed in the CL than teams that don't win at home.
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It doesn't matter if we get easier draws to the majority that don't prioritise it over the league.Prestwich_Blue said:The point about the CL though is that it's more than just a cup. The financial rewards for progress are very significant and we need that revenue. Also the better we do, the easier the draws we will get.LongsightM13 said:Win the league, every day of the week. Always must be the number one priority.
The CL is a cup, at the end of the day. You need luck to win it. Look at Chelsea & the other lot.
I also expect a run to the final as opposed to just getting out of the group would equate to less than ten percent of our income next year.
Joburg Hero
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It's not about the revenue, it's not about the trophy, it's about being European champions and the prestige that comes with it. You're not a truly big club unless you've won the CL, the CL is required to enhance global appeal. In 20 years time, it's more likely that a European would look back and say "the 2010s, that era when City won the CL three times in a row" rather than "the time City won the PL eight times in a row". Nobody outside of England really cares about who wins the PL, global prestige is about winning the CL and our long term future relies heavily on being successful in the CL.
Looking from the outside i think mcfc really needs to make an impact in Champions League asap.
I think the owners didn't invest that much money in the club, just to make local fans happy (as much as city fans deserve it) They invested to make a global impact, to make mcfc a world famous brand ( sorry, that's modern football)
and city can't become a world renowned club just winining fa cup or playing the likes of cardiff or norwich every weekend (with all due respect to those teams, of course) and being eliminated at the group stage of the Champions league every year. You do that playing the likes of real madrid, barca, milan and actually challenging for CL.
City have so much potential to become one of the biggest teams in the world, but their poor champions league campaigns haven't help their cause.
Besides, FFP makes it even more urgent.
Probably City are not going to get an easy draw, like un*ted and arsenal get but city have a very squad and manager to make a good CL campaign.
I think the owners didn't invest that much money in the club, just to make local fans happy (as much as city fans deserve it) They invested to make a global impact, to make mcfc a world famous brand ( sorry, that's modern football)
and city can't become a world renowned club just winining fa cup or playing the likes of cardiff or norwich every weekend (with all due respect to those teams, of course) and being eliminated at the group stage of the Champions league every year. You do that playing the likes of real madrid, barca, milan and actually challenging for CL.
City have so much potential to become one of the biggest teams in the world, but their poor champions league campaigns haven't help their cause.
Besides, FFP makes it even more urgent.
Probably City are not going to get an easy draw, like un*ted and arsenal get but city have a very squad and manager to make a good CL campaign.