Plan to suspend the Metrolink line to the stadium?

[BeerIsTheBest]

It will actually shave about 56 minutes off the journey, cutting Manchester to London journey’s in half (nearly).

Don’t get me wrong, I think the billions spent on it could be put to better use, but it would make Manchester to London commutable.

Shaelumstash. Fair response and correct. But like other posters I wonder about the effect when overall journey times and personal costs are taken into account.

Currently I can get to a mainline station in 10 minutes. And park for about £4.00 for the day. The mainline stations that currently run the London service depend on the high value business traveller to subsidise us oiks in second class and who travel out of peak.

these high value business travellers will disappear onto the new service on HS2 as their companies / business pay their travel. current mainline London busy stations like Wilmslow and Macclesfield have already bleated that they will lose their passengers and their regular London trains.

Travellers to London wanting HS2 will have to travel to the main hub stations. For me as a working example this would add a conservative hour to my travel time to London.

Goodness knows what the cost of a HS2 London ticket will be. God knows how freight will be taken off roads and the existing lines utilised.

I know that something has to be done around capacity but don’t believe this vanity project is the answer.

it smacks to me of a train version of Concord. When that flew the elite could get to New York much faster than the average Joe. Only a wealthy select few could afford to take advantage of the service.

Unlike Concorde, we taxpayers will be funding HS2.

 

[BMR]

Not sure if I'm missing something but HS2 doesn't go near the tram line until its virtually in Piccadilly In your area map - High Speed 2 (hs2.org.uk)

 

[Eccles Blue]

He's a politician, so that's quite feasible.

Actually that is probably 99.999999999999999% correct. He's a politician so I would read everything published OFFICIALLY myself before I took any politician's word for it....................and even then I wouldn't believe it if it came from a Government office.
Cynical, mistrusting moi? Heaven forfend.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I agree, it’s a ridiculous amount of money for the impact it will have on the average person.

But I do think it makes living in Manchester and working in London a viable option. I don’t think many will do it, but plenty commute to London every day for longer than 70 minutes.

*fair warning* tongue in cheek time!!



More fool them if they commute to London every day. Who the heck would want to work in London? Manchester is a much better place to live and work.

MANCHESTER FOR EVER. :-)

 

[Lavinda Past]

*fair warning* tongue in cheek time!!



More fool them if they commute to London every day. Who the heck would want to work in London? Manchester is a much better place to live and work.

MANCHESTER FOR EVER. :-)

I worked in that London for over 30 years.

Depending on which part of the city you work in, it's often the case that the longest part of the journey starts when you get off the train at Euston.

It was a relief to get away.

HS2 is an absolute waste of money

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Out of curiosity is there a rail or metro line from M/c airport to the etihad?

There’s both a rail and Metrolink line from the Airport to Town.

The railway from the Airport goes to Piccadilly.
The Met from the Airport goes to Victoria.

You have to change Mets to get to the Etihad and no trains run out to the Etihad.

As you can see here though, the Airport Metrolink line slaloms and snakes through the South of the city, side-to-side, which makes it a very lengthy journey for the A-Z journey you’re actually doing:




But all the other Met lines are really bloody slow once you hit Town anyway, because you hit roads and pedestrian areas. It’s waking pace through some areas of Town on the Met, it’s ridiculously slow! (The City Centre should have been underground, but that’s another matter altogether!)

So, opt for the train to Piccadilly and jump in a black cab to the Etihad if you’re coming from the Airport.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I’ve just bought a flat close to where the HS2 line will be and read a bit about it as the checks were being done for the flat… even if it goes ahead up here through Manchester, it’s not going to be until about 2035 and beyond before it happens.

 

[Sid C]

I’ve just bought a flat close to where the HS2 line will be and read a bit about it as the checks were being done for the flat… even if it goes ahead up here through Manchester, it’s not going to be until about 2035 and beyond before it happens.

Nought to worry about then, unless they dig my fucking grave up.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Interested to know if folk on the forum believe that HS2 will actually be completed beyond Brum?

I’ve always believed that HS2 is a pie in the sky concept that is currently supported by people who will be long out of power with their peerages and privileges banked long before decisions are taken to pare back / suspend work/ introduce alternatives. Sure some ground work will be done but the current spend forecast against the original budget is frighteningly out of balance and I don’t see how the spend can be justified or the money found.

HS2 is a great sound bite to those who are really only interested in spend around London and the Home Counties. How many people are really interested in getting to London 20 minutes faster than is possible now?

Invest in and upgrade the current infrastructure and build new, only where absolutely essential North of Brum has always seemed a better plan to me. Invest in the lines over and across the Pennines now. Dont put the money in a new line.

Personally I don’t think we will be travelling distances sat in metal tubes or move freight powered by electrified lines in 20 / 30 years time. And fewer and fewer of us will need to travel very quickly or regularly commute to the shithole that is London.

The vision of the people leading the country is short sighted and unimaginative.

HS2 made a lot of sense when the original idea was to link the rest of the UK to the European high speed rail network. So, you could get a train from Manchester to Brussels for example. I was all for that.

Since then we've collectively shot ourselves in the head — sorry, I mean left the EU — and due to budgets the single connection idea has been scrapped, so one will still have to get off at Euston and walk down the road to Kings Cross to change trains. Which is exactly how it works now with the west coast main line and Eurostar.

As it currently stands I don't see the point at all.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

(The City Centre should have been underground, but that’s another matter altogether!)

Too many sewers, culverts, tunnels and a nuclear bunker right under Picc Gardens!
Should have been an over head monorail through the city centre starting at GMEX to Vic and Picc via the gardens