Player thread: Matija Nastasic (2014/15)

[BlueAnorak]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Sagna played well as a RCH at Arsenal.

 

[yatesy94]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Sagna played well as a RCH at Arsenal.

Yeah Gooners seemed at ease with him at the back when he filled in there for them last season, and they're a bunch of flappers. Have him in there all day long v Sunderand.

 

[Fame Monster]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's technically gifted, but average athlete and average defender. We have a goalkeeper who won't pass out from the back and a manager who plays a system not suited to possession football (even though we have some great ball players) so there's no place and no point in having him unless we buy a new goalkeeper and change the manager.

He might do well elsewhere like Boateng, like Pique, but like them two, he won't ever be a great player or great defender but might do very well if he plays in a system that hides his many deficiencies.

For what it's worth, I think he's better than Boyata, worse than Demichelis, was worse than Lescott, and is probably better than Mangala (who still needs time).

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Wuss. No pace. Never covers for his partner. Easily beaten at set pieces.

Perfect for Arsenal.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I don't think Pellegrini trusts him. Judging from his outings last season, I don't think he suits our high line system, typical Mancini system player. Still, I'd have him in earlier than Boyata.

Id rather play my mother in law than Boyata!

Is yer mother-in-law 6ft 4ins and weighs 14 stones? Can she run like Mangala? If not, I'll stick with Dedryck!

 

[AlthamBlue]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's technically gifted, but average athlete and average defender. We have a goalkeeper who won't pass out from the back and a manager who plays a system not suited to possession football (even though we have some great ball players) so there's no place and no point in having him unless we buy a new goalkeeper and change the manager.

He might do well elsewhere like Boateng, like Pique, but like them two, he won't ever be a great player or great defender but might do very well if he plays in a system that hides his many deficiencies.

For what it's worth, I think he's better than Boyata, worse than Demichelis, was worse than Lescott, and is probably better than Mangala (who still needs time).

Bollocks. Worse than Lescott? Despite keeping him out the team for most of the season. Yeah alright. He's on par with MDM too, with many years to learn on his side.

 

[BigOscar]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Complete lack of balls tbh. Never competes for anything, will let the opposition bring it down on their chest, turn around and stroll towards our net. Only puts in a tackle when he absolutely has to, which worked for Mancini's stand off defence, but is just awful with Pellegrini's hit them early style of defence. Absolutely awful at tracking runners in behind him as well

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's technically gifted, but average athlete and average defender. We have a goalkeeper who won't pass out from the back and a manager who plays a system not suited to possession football (even though we have some great ball players) so there's no place and no point in having him unless we buy a new goalkeeper and change the manager.

He might do well elsewhere like Boateng, like Pique, but like them two, he won't ever be a great player or great defender but might do very well if he plays in a system that hides his many deficiencies.

For what it's worth, I think he's better than Boyata, worse than Demichelis, was worse than Lescott, and is probably better than Mangala (who still needs time).

Bollocks. Worse than Lescott? Despite keeping him out the team for most of the season. Yeah alright. He's on par with MDM too, with many years to learn on his side.

Miles worse. Hence not keeping Boyata out this season.

Mancini bought him from his mate, so played him.

 

[AlthamBlue]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's technically gifted, but average athlete and average defender. We have a goalkeeper who won't pass out from the back and a manager who plays a system not suited to possession football (even though we have some great ball players) so there's no place and no point in having him unless we buy a new goalkeeper and change the manager.

He might do well elsewhere like Boateng, like Pique, but like them two, he won't ever be a great player or great defender but might do very well if he plays in a system that hides his many deficiencies.

For what it's worth, I think he's better than Boyata, worse than Demichelis, was worse than Lescott, and is probably better than Mangala (who still needs time).

Bollocks. Worse than Lescott? Despite keeping him out the team for most of the season. Yeah alright. He's on par with MDM too, with many years to learn on his side.

Miles worse. Hence not keeping Boyata out this season.

Mancini bought him from his mate, so played him.

Boyata is here purely for the homegrown reason. Saying he's better than Nastasic is downright fucking retarded, and I suspect many of you saying he is knows this. Boyata is beyond shite, on every level.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's technically gifted, but average athlete and average defender. We have a goalkeeper who won't pass out from the back and a manager who plays a system not suited to possession football (even though we have some great ball players) so there's no place and no point in having him unless we buy a new goalkeeper and change the manager.

He might do well elsewhere like Boateng, like Pique, but like them two, he won't ever be a great player or great defender but might do very well if he plays in a system that hides his many deficiencies.

For what it's worth, I think he's better than Boyata, worse than Demichelis, was worse than Lescott, and is probably better than Mangala (who still needs time).

Bollocks. Worse than Lescott? Despite keeping him out the team for most of the season. Yeah alright. He's on par with MDM too, with many years to learn on his side.

Miles worse. Hence not keeping Boyata out this season.

Mancini bought him from his mate, so played him.

Do you really think Boyata is keeping Nasty out on ability?

 

[Rodney]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I don't think Pellegrini trusts him. Judging from his outings last season, I don't think he suits our high line system, typical Mancini system player. Still, I'd have him in earlier than Boyata.

Id rather play my mother in law than Boyata!

Is yer mother-in-law 6ft 4ins and weighs 14 stones? Can she run like Mangala? If not, I'll stick with Dedryck!

Not as tall but a bit heavier, runs like Benny Hill. Still gets the nod!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's not quick enough or good enough on the ball. And if the manager isn't considering him I'd suggest something's happened behind the scenes; maybe he's not putting any effort in and biding his time before the inevitable move.

I think boyata gets unjust criticism. He's good in the air and quick. Just not a great passer.

 

[DTKOAG]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Get Micah.

 

[BobKowalski]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

No idea what the issue is but it must be a belter given there is hardly a peep from anyone over it and Boyata is considered an option before him. I'll be astonished if we play Boyata on Wednesday. Actually I'll be astonished if Boyata ever plays a game for us full stop.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's not quick enough or good enough on the ball. And if the manager isn't considering him I'd suggest something's happened behind the scenes; maybe he's not putting any effort in and biding his time before the inevitable move.

I think boyata gets unjust criticism. He's good in the air and quick. Just not a great passer.

I really think we should aiming higher than that.

Clubs after Nasty: Juventus Roma Arsenal

Clubs after Boyata: ermmmm.......Bolton. Oh wait they sent him back.

There is obviously a problem with Nasty but that doesn't mean Boyata is the answer.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's technically gifted, but average athlete and average defender. We have a goalkeeper who won't pass out from the back and a manager who plays a system not suited to possession football (even though we have some great ball players) so there's no place and no point in having him unless we buy a new goalkeeper and change the manager.

He might do well elsewhere like Boateng, like Pique, but like them two, he won't ever be a great player or great defender but might do very well if he plays in a system that hides his many deficiencies.

For what it's worth, I think he's better than Boyata, worse than Demichelis, was worse than Lescott, and is probably better than Mangala (who still needs time).

Bollocks. Worse than Lescott? Despite keeping him out the team for most of the season. Yeah alright. He's on par with MDM too, with many years to learn on his side.

Miles worse. Hence not keeping Boyata out this season.

Mancini bought him from his mate, so played him.

Mancini has a mate?

Nastasic isn't suited to our system, he should have gone in the summer.

 

[MihaiCity]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

MP don't trust him simple as that...he is not suited to our high line system but even so i will still play him rather than boyata...the trough of playing boyata vs sunderland ohh noo just no

 

[TFC]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Bollocks. Worse than Lescott? Despite keeping him out the team for most of the season. Yeah alright. He's on par with MDM too, with many years to learn on his side.

Miles worse. Hence not keeping Boyata out this season.

Mancini bought him from his mate, so played him.

Mancini has a mate?

Nastasic isn't suited to our system, he should have gone in the summer.

I would think it's as simple as this tbh, lescott and nastasic not as mobile as pellegrini seems to like from his centre halves. Of course boyata isn't the answer, would rather see sagna start at cb against Sunderland if vinnie can't.

 

[stony]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He's technically gifted, but average athlete and average defender. We have a goalkeeper who won't pass out from the back and a manager who plays a system not suited to possession football (even though we have some great ball players) so there's no place and no point in having him unless we buy a new goalkeeper and change the manager.

He might do well elsewhere like Boateng, like Pique, but like them two, he won't ever be a great player or great defender but might do very well if he plays in a system that hides his many deficiencies.

For what it's worth, I think he's better than Boyata, worse than Demichelis, was worse than Lescott, and is probably better than Mangala (who still needs time).

Bollocks. Worse than Lescott? Despite keeping him out the team for most of the season. Yeah alright. He's on par with MDM too, with many years to learn on his side.

Fuckwittery of the highest order.

 

[cibaman]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I very much doubt that Pellegrini thinks Boyata is better than Nastasic, in any system.

We want Nastasic to leave and, apparently, he hasnt co-operated. So he doesn't get picked.