Player thread: Samir Nasri (2014/15)

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Re: Samir Nasri is NOT a Shithouse

Dzeko's Right Boot said:
You're fighting a losing battle mate. He isn't a 'shithouse' and everyone here knows it. But people need a scapegoat and because Nasri did ONE thing in a high profile match, he is that scapegoat. He's an asset to the team who will have a big season. It could be argued he had a better season than Dave last year.

He's also only had a handful of good games for the club each season and that's the real issue. If he had played great the last 2 years the chicken move vs the rags would have been forgotten. To claim he's being scapegoated makes me think you don't really understand the definition of the word. In modern usage a scapegoat is an individual, group, or country singled out for unmerited negative treatment or blame. He's hardly recieving unmerited negative treatment. The treatment has been merited. He cost us a draw vs the rags. He's underperformed 80% of his time with us.
 
Re: Samir Nasri is NOT useless

Train said:
charliebigspuds said:
Train said:
Elaborate on why you think he's a complete shithouse.


he won't tackle and ducks when in a wall, he hasn't got any fight in him whatsoever

Silva rarely tackles. Its just not his game. It doesn't mean he's a shithouse.

SN: I don’t know what went through my head. It was an instinct. I saw the ball and tried to put my leg out. If I didn’t, I think Joe Hart could have saved it. I don’t know what I was thinking. I don’t know how many times I was thinking about it afterwards. Eventually I had to turn off the TV. I spoke with my dad and he said, “Why are you scared of the ball, do you think it’s going to be burn you or something?” At the time I almost cried I was so upset with myself. Really, for one or two weeks I was very upset with myself. How could you do that? It was a derby and, with a draw, we’d have stayed a few points behind them, but they won the game and it was a big moment in the title race.


It was an unfortunate split second reaction. A human error. Let it go. Barry has done it twice yet he doesn't get slammed for it. Leading up to that free-kick, we saw Hart fuck up by not commanding the area, Clichy taking on players for got knows what reason, & Tevez conceding an extremely dumb foul by clipping the heels of the opponent around the box when he didn't need to. Not one of those players get any amount of flack whatsoever, but they are also responsible for the goal conceded.
how was that goal Hart's fault?
 
Re: Samir Nasri is NOT useless

Train said:
charliebigspuds said:
I'd like to see that stats but I reckon Silva tackles, or attempts to, a hell of a lot more that Nasri

Nasri attempted 0.5 tackles a game last season whilse SIlva attempted 1.


not even one tackle per game eh, I wouldn't mind so much if he did enough with the ball but he doesn't imo
 
Re: Samir Nasri is NOT useless

NoahCity said:
Train said:
charliebigspuds said:
he won't tackle and ducks when in a wall, he hasn't got any fight in him whatsoever

Silva rarely tackles. Its just not his game. It doesn't mean he's a shithouse.

SN: I don’t know what went through my head. It was an instinct. I saw the ball and tried to put my leg out. If I didn’t, I think Joe Hart could have saved it. I don’t know what I was thinking. I don’t know how many times I was thinking about it afterwards. Eventually I had to turn off the TV. I spoke with my dad and he said, “Why are you scared of the ball, do you think it’s going to be burn you or something?” At the time I almost cried I was so upset with myself. Really, for one or two weeks I was very upset with myself. How could you do that? It was a derby and, with a draw, we’d have stayed a few points behind them, but they won the game and it was a big moment in the title race.


It was an unfortunate split second reaction. A human error. Let it go. Barry has done it twice yet he doesn't get slammed for it. Leading up to that free-kick, we saw Hart fuck up by not commanding the area, Clichy taking on players for got knows what reason, & Tevez conceding an extremely dumb foul by clipping the heels of the opponent around the box when he didn't need to. Not one of those players get any amount of flack whatsoever, but they are also responsible for the goal conceded.
how was that goal Hart's fault?

It was partly Hart's fault. It was mostly clichy's fault in my opinion.
 
Re: Samir Nasri is NOT useless

mrjxf14 said:
should"nt of signed him.........not a team player.......end of
Well not bad for a guy who helped us to win our first premiership for 44 years, you don't win championships without bring a team player, the guy is class
 
Re: Samir Nasri is NOT useless

Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
NoahCity said:
Train said:
Silva rarely tackles. Its just not his game. It doesn't mean he's a shithouse.

SN: I don’t know what went through my head. It was an instinct. I saw the ball and tried to put my leg out. If I didn’t, I think Joe Hart could have saved it. I don’t know what I was thinking. I don’t know how many times I was thinking about it afterwards. Eventually I had to turn off the TV. I spoke with my dad and he said, “Why are you scared of the ball, do you think it’s going to be burn you or something?” At the time I almost cried I was so upset with myself. Really, for one or two weeks I was very upset with myself. How could you do that? It was a derby and, with a draw, we’d have stayed a few points behind them, but they won the game and it was a big moment in the title race.


It was an unfortunate split second reaction. A human error. Let it go. Barry has done it twice yet he doesn't get slammed for it. Leading up to that free-kick, we saw Hart fuck up by not commanding the area, Clichy taking on players for got knows what reason, & Tevez conceding an extremely dumb foul by clipping the heels of the opponent around the box when he didn't need to. Not one of those players get any amount of flack whatsoever, but they are also responsible for the goal conceded.
how was that goal Hart's fault?

It was partly Hart's fault. It was mostly clichy's fault in my opinion.
the ball took a deflection right onto the post, and Hart sill got close to it. If Nasri stands still, it hits him,
 
Re: Samir Nasri is NOT a Shithouse

Mr. Aguia said:
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
You're fighting a losing battle mate. He isn't a 'shithouse' and everyone here knows it. But people need a scapegoat and because Nasri did ONE thing in a high profile match, he is that scapegoat. He's an asset to the team who will have a big season. It could be argued he had a better season than Dave last year.

He's also only had a handful of good games for the club each season and that's the real issue. If he had played great the last 2 years the chicken move vs the rags would have been forgotten. To claim he's being scapegoated makes me think you don't really understand the definition of the word. In modern usage a scapegoat is an individual, group, or country singled out for unmerited negative treatment or blame. He's hardly recieving unmerited negative treatment. The treatment has been merited. He cost us a draw vs the rags. He's underperformed 80% of his time with us.

That kind of proves I do know the definition. He has been afforded all kinds of abuse, when there are players much more deserving of it. Do you agree that people give special treatment to some players?
 
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