Player Topic: Eliaquim Mangala (2015/16)

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He's been part of a defence that had 9 clean sheets in 11 games from end of last season to beginning of this. Wind your neck in and cut him some slack. The whole team was horrible on Saturday. Mangala was not alone in that.

Ahhh, you obviously believe in fairytales. Well in this fairytale, Mango isn't ever going to be good enough for the PL. Anyone with eyes can see that.
 
As it seems that Kompany will miss the Juventus game also, I hope Manuel will trust Mangala next to Otamendi on Wednesday, and give the lad a bit of a confidence by giving him a chance to correct himself. It really was his first shit performance after quite a long time, and he was hardly helped by his partner and especially by that midfield...
 
Can't understand anyone slagging off Mangala on the basis of that one performance. Him and Kompany kept 5 clean sheets in the first five PL games this season. It's Kompany we miss, rather than Mangala being crap.

It's not one game though is it?

Excluding all of last season and his hilarious showing against Stuttgart in preseason, Moses and Murray both scored because they were given free shots from 20 yards on their stronger foot by Mangala. Mandzukic was left unmarked in the box by Mangala when he scored against us while his positioning for the Morata goal in the same game is what led to Otamendi being pulled across.

I've never liked him because he's simply not good enough; nowhere near good enough to play for a top team and nowhere near good enough to ever justify the £42m we spent on him.

Remember Richard Edghill being lynched years ago after a couple of bad performances? Yet this donkey is blindly defended by some on here. It's weird. Neither Savic or Nastasic cost us anywhere near as much money or as many goals as Mangala, yet are widely regarded as flops. Both were much younger than him as well.

The reality is he's still here because he refused to move; the coaching staff wanted him out. His presence destabilises the entire defensive unit; look at the difference in Otamendi with/without Mangala next to him, and as a consequence Kolarov, who requires a steady player in behind him to neutralise his own dubious positional sense.

Kompany will probably only play 25-30 games per season moving forward, so we need to invest in another top class centrehalf plus a competent ageing one to fill gaps when required.
 
Was watching the game again and noticed his position was absolute gash, each time the ball reached out midfield: he always rushed out. Don't know how difficult it is to understand that, it was the job of Fernando/Yaya to cover him but he still felt he could rush 30 yards and win the ball.

I would think it would change in the 2nd half with Fern's and Delph, but no he felt the same urge to rocket forward leaving our defensive shape to the hounds and fking up Demi (who is slow in moving across the line) and Kolarov's position. It seemed like we were playing with a 2 man defence (Demi and Sagna). His head was clearly not in the game. Rant over.
 
Was watching the game again and noticed his position was absolute gash, each time the ball reached out midfield: he always rushed out. Don't know how difficult it is to understand that, it was the job of Fernando/Yaya to cover him but he still felt he could rush 30 yards and win the ball.

I would think it would change in the 2nd half with Fern's and Delph, but no he felt the same urge to rocket forward leaving our defensive shape to the hounds and fking up Demi (who is slow in moving across the line) and Kolarov's position. It seemed like we were playing with a 2 man defence (Demi and Sagna). His head was clearly not in the game. Rant over.

The chance that Benteke had that Hart saved in the second half was an example of bad positioning and then he allowed Benteke to run 25 yards and get a free shot away. He was too slow to get back and didn't even try and foul him to stop the play. His play on Saturday was undefendable. He was total and utter crap. How he stayed on is a mystery.
 
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