Player topic: Jesus Navas (2014/15)

If Navas is not good enough for us than nor are another 15 players of our 25 man squad. And of the 10 left 5 don't have his attitude or his workrate. And from the 5 left one is a goalkeeper.
 
eversince 76 said:
If Navas is not good enough for us than nor are another 15 players of our 25 man squad. And of the 10 left 5 don't have his attitude or his workrate. And from the 5 left one is a goalkeeper.


Haha spot on, quality again yesterday.
 
I wish the rest of the team had his work rate,


BUT for the amount of ball he sees, he achieves relative very little. It may sound harsh after he`s had one of his better games and the effort he puts in but he would`nt get in this side if we could go back to our past and pick any of Barnes, Mike Summerbee, Tueart or Beagrie
 
Did great yesterday, and was voted MOTM. He set up Aguero for his goal and if the defender hadn't sliced the ball into the net and missed it completely, he would probably have set up Aguero for another goal.

He does work hard for the team tracking back etc and that has to be acknowledged and appreciated.

No reason why he shouldn't be part of our first team squad for a few more years at least.

That doesn't stop us signing a player to compete with him for his place in the first team though. However I'm not to sure that will be the priority this summer to be honest.
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Did great yesterday, and was voted MOTM. He set up Aguero for his goal and if the defender hadn't sliced the ball into the net and missed it completely, he would probably have set up Aguero for another goal.

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If the defender had missed it, it would have been cleared by the other one behind him; it was one of Navas' trademark awful crosses, that was only remotely dangerous because the defender somehow sliced it in from 18 yards out. Credit where due his 5 yard square pass for the second goal was ok, but beyond that his only other decisive contribution was a Silva-esque through ball for the West Ham striker.

For an attacking player he simply isn't productive enough. Navas has 4 league goals in his last 3 seasons; Chelsea's right-back has 5 this year.

He's played about 800 league minutes more than James Milner this season, almost the equivalent to 9 full games, yet has 8 assists and 0 goals compared to Jimmy's 6 assists and 3 goals; Milner is more robust, has more variety in his passing and his movement, and is statistically clearly the more effective player, yet somehow is used sparingly in comparison to Jesus.

Despite that, people still have the audacity to accuse an ageing Milner of being a mercenary for not signing up to spend any more valuable years of his career behind this kind of obscurity.
 
.A. said:
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Did great yesterday, and was voted MOTM. He set up Aguero for his goal and if the defender hadn't sliced the ball into the net and missed it completely, he would probably have set up Aguero for another goal.

.

If the defender had missed it, it would have been cleared by the other one behind him; it was one of Navas' trademark awful crosses, that was only remotely dangerous because the defender somehow sliced it in from 18 yards out. Credit where due his 5 yard square pass for the second goal was ok, but beyond that his only other decisive contribution was a Silva-esque through ball for the West Ham striker.

For an attacking player he simply isn't productive enough. Navas has 4 league goals in his last 3 seasons; Chelsea's right-back has 5 this year.

He's played about 800 league minutes more than James Milner this season, almost the equivalent to 9 full games, yet has 8 assists and 0 goals compared to Jimmy's 6 assists and 3 goals; Milner is more robust, has more variety in his passing and his movement, and is statistically clearly the more effective player, yet somehow is used sparingly in comparison to Jesus.

Despite that, people still have the audacity to accuse an ageing Milner of being a mercenary for not signing up to spend any more valuable years of his career behind this kind of obscurity.

He`s our leading player for assists so far this season.
 
oakiecokie said:
.A. said:
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Did great yesterday, and was voted MOTM. He set up Aguero for his goal and if the defender hadn't sliced the ball into the net and missed it completely, he would probably have set up Aguero for another goal.

.

If the defender had missed it, it would have been cleared by the other one behind him; it was one of Navas' trademark awful crosses, that was only remotely dangerous because the defender somehow sliced it in from 18 yards out. Credit where due his 5 yard square pass for the second goal was ok, but beyond that his only other decisive contribution was a Silva-esque through ball for the West Ham striker.

For an attacking player he simply isn't productive enough. Navas has 4 league goals in his last 3 seasons; Chelsea's right-back has 5 this year.

He's played about 800 league minutes more than James Milner this season, almost the equivalent to 9 full games, yet has 8 assists and 0 goals compared to Jimmy's 6 assists and 3 goals; Milner is more robust, has more variety in his passing and his movement, and is statistically clearly the more effective player, yet somehow is used sparingly in comparison to Jesus.

Despite that, people still have the audacity to accuse an ageing Milner of being a mercenary for not signing up to spend any more valuable years of his career behind this kind of obscurity.

He`s our leading player for assists so far this season.
Don't rate him at all BUT....

I will concede, West Ham was his best game, though what he produced there I would expect to see every week, debatable (as always) that he was MOTM, though as agreed earlier it was his best game.

Not a patch on Milner and should NEVER start ahead of him, he should only be used as an impact substitute... sadly the fact he is one of our most regular starters highlights Pellegrini's naivety and illustrative of why we are having such a poor season.
 
.A. said:
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Did great yesterday, and was voted MOTM. He set up Aguero for his goal and if the defender hadn't sliced the ball into the net and missed it completely, he would probably have set up Aguero for another goal.

.

If the defender had missed it, it would have been cleared by the other one behind him; it was one of Navas' trademark awful crosses, that was only remotely dangerous because the defender somehow sliced it in from 18 yards out. Credit where due his 5 yard square pass for the second goal was ok, but beyond that his only other decisive contribution was a Silva-esque through ball for the West Ham striker.

For an attacking player he simply isn't productive enough. Navas has 4 league goals in his last 3 seasons; Chelsea's right-back has 5 this year.

He's played about 800 league minutes more than James Milner this season, almost the equivalent to 9 full games, yet has 8 assists and 0 goals compared to Jimmy's 6 assists and 3 goals; Milner is more robust, has more variety in his passing and his movement, and is statistically clearly the more effective player, yet somehow is used sparingly in comparison to Jesus.

Despite that, people still have the audacity to accuse an ageing Milner of being a mercenary for not signing up to spend any more valuable years of his career behind this kind of obscurity.


Awful selective use of stats which don't prove anything. By way of example world cup winner Navas has some brilliant numbers when used selectively (better than Milner) which don't prove anything either. They do make you think tho and I do love the 3rd one :)

1. 5th in the league (only behind Fabregas, Silva, Ozil and Hazard) for the number of successful key passes per game.
2. Only 3 players in the league have more assists in the league this year.
3. Only 2 players in the league have more accurate crosses than Navas this season.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
oakiecokie said:
.A. said:
If the defender had missed it, it would have been cleared by the other one behind him; it was one of Navas' trademark awful crosses, that was only remotely dangerous because the defender somehow sliced it in from 18 yards out. Credit where due his 5 yard square pass for the second goal was ok, but beyond that his only other decisive contribution was a Silva-esque through ball for the West Ham striker.

For an attacking player he simply isn't productive enough. Navas has 4 league goals in his last 3 seasons; Chelsea's right-back has 5 this year.

He's played about 800 league minutes more than James Milner this season, almost the equivalent to 9 full games, yet has 8 assists and 0 goals compared to Jimmy's 6 assists and 3 goals; Milner is more robust, has more variety in his passing and his movement, and is statistically clearly the more effective player, yet somehow is used sparingly in comparison to Jesus.

Despite that, people still have the audacity to accuse an ageing Milner of being a mercenary for not signing up to spend any more valuable years of his career behind this kind of obscurity.

He`s our leading player for assists so far this season.
Don't rate him at all BUT....

I will concede, West Ham was his best game, though what he produced there I would expect to see every week, debatable (as always) that he was MOTM, though as agreed earlier it was his best game.

Not a patch on Milner and should NEVER start ahead of him, he should only be used as an impact substitute... sadly the fact he is one of our most regular starters highlights Pellegrini's naivety and illustrative of why we are having such a poor season.

What does Milner do that Navas doesn't do?
 
.A. said:
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Did great yesterday, and was voted MOTM. He set up Aguero for his goal and if the defender hadn't sliced the ball into the net and missed it completely, he would probably have set up Aguero for another goal.

.

If the defender had missed it, it would have been cleared by the other one behind him; it was one of Navas' trademark awful crosses, that was only remotely dangerous because the defender somehow sliced it in from 18 yards out. Credit where due his 5 yard square pass for the second goal was ok, but beyond that his only other decisive contribution was a Silva-esque through ball for the West Ham striker.

For an attacking player he simply isn't productive enough. Navas has 4 league goals in his last 3 seasons; Chelsea's right-back has 5 this year.

He's played about 800 league minutes more than James Milner this season, almost the equivalent to 9 full games, yet has 8 assists and 0 goals compared to Jimmy's 6 assists and 3 goals; Milner is more robust, has more variety in his passing and his movement, and is statistically clearly the more effective player, yet somehow is used sparingly in comparison to Jesus.

Despite that, people still have the audacity to accuse an ageing Milner of being a mercenary for not signing up to spend any more valuable years of his career behind this kind of obscurity.


Your posts never fail to amaze me. You do nothing but criticise City players which makes me want to sniff.
 

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