Policing in America
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Innsbruckblue
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If this is true, then wtf?
At least they are off the force…and they promised to do better.
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What mind must you have to commit such perversion?
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I realize I will be the lone voice here for the police (in general) not some of the racist assholes who have committed some of the crimes noted, but I’m up for it…
Policing in America is different than policing anywhere else because of 2A and the ability of almost anyone to legally own a gun and EVERYONE (ESP THE BAD GUYS) to ILLEGALLY obtain one and use it to avoid street or official justice.
EVERY POLICE INTERACTION…for the cop…is a life-threatening interaction. EVERY ONE!
Now, you might say that the police shot an “unarmed” man, but when the police officer is armed, he cannot allow anyone too close to him and can definitely not allow anyone to physically assault him, lest he be overpowered and killed by his own gun.
None of that detracts from the heinous injustice regularly served on seemingly innocent people by racist or poorly trained police, but there are many, many, many more decent cops than bent ones who would kill you in a second for looking at them wrong.
I, and most police officers, have no problem with removing bad officers from the force, but one has to be mindful of what we are asking police officers to do and why…and much of the time they are not dealing with “angels” with too much to lose to confront them.
Now, I hate to even bring up the cowboy duels of the Wild Wild West, because it’ll elicit much amusement and repetition about the word “cowboy,” BUT for many officers, in many situations, it has been whoever has been quickest on the draw that has survived the interaction.
When stopped by a cop, they are looking for calm, cooperative and compliant. If you’re not calm, that raises hair on their neck. If you are non-cooperative, it creates a proximity issue to force cooperation if warranted. If those are then further exacerbated by non-compliance, now it’s very, very difficult to enforce it WITHOUT a gun drawn.
It’s the nature of the beast.
Cops feel like they’re out there to protect society, not sacrifice themselves by being targeted on the streets. If it comes down to you or potentially them, they are going to choose THEIR life over sacrificing it for some punk they just came across for the first time in their life.
I know a few guys (one an ex-vice cop and one a current undercover DEA agent) and I’ve not only been shooting with them but talked about their jobs. Believe me, you wouldn’t want it anymore than I would! It takes a special KIND of person to do it, and some of those take that “special” to an unhealthy extreme. It is those people we all need to remove from a position of authority, but often the discovery occurs too late.
Policing in America is different than policing anywhere else because of 2A and the ability of almost anyone to legally own a gun and EVERYONE (ESP THE BAD GUYS) to ILLEGALLY obtain one and use it to avoid street or official justice.
EVERY POLICE INTERACTION…for the cop…is a life-threatening interaction. EVERY ONE!
Now, you might say that the police shot an “unarmed” man, but when the police officer is armed, he cannot allow anyone too close to him and can definitely not allow anyone to physically assault him, lest he be overpowered and killed by his own gun.
None of that detracts from the heinous injustice regularly served on seemingly innocent people by racist or poorly trained police, but there are many, many, many more decent cops than bent ones who would kill you in a second for looking at them wrong.
I, and most police officers, have no problem with removing bad officers from the force, but one has to be mindful of what we are asking police officers to do and why…and much of the time they are not dealing with “angels” with too much to lose to confront them.
Now, I hate to even bring up the cowboy duels of the Wild Wild West, because it’ll elicit much amusement and repetition about the word “cowboy,” BUT for many officers, in many situations, it has been whoever has been quickest on the draw that has survived the interaction.
When stopped by a cop, they are looking for calm, cooperative and compliant. If you’re not calm, that raises hair on their neck. If you are non-cooperative, it creates a proximity issue to force cooperation if warranted. If those are then further exacerbated by non-compliance, now it’s very, very difficult to enforce it WITHOUT a gun drawn.
It’s the nature of the beast.
Cops feel like they’re out there to protect society, not sacrifice themselves by being targeted on the streets. If it comes down to you or potentially them, they are going to choose THEIR life over sacrificing it for some punk they just came across for the first time in their life.
I know a few guys (one an ex-vice cop and one a current undercover DEA agent) and I’ve not only been shooting with them but talked about their jobs. Believe me, you wouldn’t want it anymore than I would! It takes a special KIND of person to do it, and some of those take that “special” to an unhealthy extreme. It is those people we all need to remove from a position of authority, but often the discovery occurs too late.
Txiki Txiki Bang Bang
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Six white ex-Mississippi officers plead guilty to racist assault on two Black men
‘Goon Squad’ burst into a home on 24 January without a warrant and brutalized the two men, shooting one in the mouth
www.theguardian.com
Still on it
How rogue Mississippi officers tried to cover up their torture of 2 Black men
A rogue group of deputies who called themselves “The Goon Squad” burst into the home without a warrant and abused the men before shooting one of them.
www.nbclosangeles.com
If the so called "good apples" could only tell on the "bad apples" in the police system then perhaps most wouldn't have the distrust that they have about the cops. Unfortunately that has hardly been the case. I remember a case in LA where a black officer reported the racist elements in his police department only to end up getting fired. It wasn't untik years later when an FBI investigation found out that truky there were officers tied to the KKK and Nazi groups with some of them carefully hiding their gang symbols in plain sight.
These Mississippi officers where well known in their police department and even went by the name goon squad and had committed a lot of atrocities with reports going as far back as 2019 and some how they were still in the police force. Tells you all you need to know about the American police system and the structure it was founded on
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Txiki Txiki Bang Bang
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Re LA, the Rampart Scandal. Where were the good eggs then.Six white ex-Mississippi officers plead guilty to racist assault on two Black men
‘Goon Squad’ burst into a home on 24 January without a warrant and brutalized the two men, shooting one in the mouth
Still on it
How rogue Mississippi officers tried to cover up their torture of 2 Black men
A rogue group of deputies who called themselves “The Goon Squad” burst into the home without a warrant and abused the men before shooting one of them.
If the so called "good apples" could only tell on the "bad apples" in the police system then perhaps most wouldn't have the distrust that they have about the cops. Unfortunately that has hardly been the case. I remember a case in LA where a black officer reported the racist elements in his police department only to end up getting fired. It wasn't untik years later when an FBI investigation found out that truky there were officers tied to the KKK and Nazi groups with some of them carefully hiding their gang symbols in plain sight.
These Mississippi officers where well known in their police department and even went by the name goon squad and had committed a lot of atrocities with reports going as far back as 2019 and some how they were still in the police force. Tells you all you need to know about the American police system and the structure it was founded on
should he be telling you he’s an undercover DEA agent? If he is one I suspect he isn’t very good. “Special” even.